Can the Infinite Square Well Strategy Be Applied to Find Expansion Coefficients?

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving a particle in an infinite square well. The original poster seeks assistance in determining the expansion coefficients for a given wave function expressed as a linear combination of the well's eigenfunctions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the expansion coefficients using Fourier series concepts and expresses concern about the presence of the variable 'a' in their final answer. They question whether their method is correct and express uncertainty about the integration process.
  • Another participant suggests changing the variable of integration to eliminate 'a' from the coefficients, indicating that the coefficients should be dimensionless.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the dimensions of the integrands, reinforcing the idea that 'a' will cancel out during the integration process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is progressing with participants providing guidance on the integration method. The original poster acknowledges the advice and indicates they have continued with their work, suggesting a productive direction is being taken.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on ensuring that the final coefficients are dimensionless, which is a critical aspect of the problem. The original poster's initial hesitation reflects common concerns in physics problems regarding dimensional analysis and the correctness of mathematical approaches.

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I need a little help with the strategy on this question. My work is below the problem description.

A particle of mass m is in an infinite square well of width a (it goes from x = 0 to x = a). The eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian are known to be:

[tex]\psi_{n}(x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}} \sin\left(\frac{n \pi}{a}x}\right)[/tex]

The corresponding eigenvalues are:

[tex]E_n = \frac{\hbar^2 n^2 \pi^2}{2ma^2}[/tex]

At time t = 0, the particle has wave function [itex]\Psi(x,0) = Ax(a-x)[/itex] where [itex]A = (30/a^5)^{1/2}[/itex].

a) [itex]\Psi(x,0)[/itex] can be written as a linear combination of the eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian. Let us use the symbol cn to denote the expansion coefficients. Obtain a general expression for the cn in terms of [itex]\pi[/itex].

Here is my work so far. Based on what we know of Fourier series,

[tex]c_n = \int{\psi_n^*(x) \Psi(x,0)\, dx} = \sqrt\frac{2}{a}}\sqrt\frac{30}{a^5}} \int_0^a{\sin\left(\frac{n \pi}{a}x}\right)(ax - x^2)\, dx}[/tex]

[tex]= \sqrt\frac{60}{a^4}} \int_0^a{x\sin\left(\frac{n \pi}{a}x}\right)\, dx}\, - \, \sqrt\frac{60}{a^6}} \int_0^a{x^2\sin\left(\frac{n \pi}{a}x}\right)\, dx}[/tex]

...and now I have to integrate by parts. Is this the correct method? The reason I hesitate is that it looks like the final answer will not be only in terms of pi. There will still be some a's left, surely! Yet, the next part asks me to calculate c1, c2, and c3 to seven significant figures! This isn't looking good...I must be missing something.
 
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Change the integration variable to z=ax. Then the constant a will drop out.
 
cepheid said:
I need a little help with the strategy on this question. My work is below the problem description.

A particle of mass m is in an infinite square well of width a (it goes from x = 0 to x = a). The eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian are known to be:

[tex]\psi_{n}(x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}} \sin\left(\frac{n \pi}{a}x}\right)[/tex]

The corresponding eigenvalues are:

[tex]E_n = \frac{\hbar^2 n^2 \pi^2}{2ma^2}[/tex]

At time t = 0, the particle has wave function [itex]\Psi(x,0) = Ax(a-x)[/itex] where [itex]A = (30/a^5)^{1/2}[/itex].

a) [itex]\Psi(x,0)[/itex] can be written as a linear combination of the eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian. Let us use the symbol cn to denote the expansion coefficients. Obtain a general expression for the cn in terms of [itex]\pi[/itex].

Here is my work so far. Based on what we know of Fourier series,

[tex]c_n = \int{\psi_n^*(x) \Psi(x,0)\, dx} = \sqrt\frac{2}{a}}\sqrt\frac{30}{a^5}} \int_0^a{\sin\left(\frac{n \pi}{a}x}\right)(ax - x^2)\, dx}[/tex]

[tex]= \sqrt\frac{60}{a^4}} \int_0^a{x\sin\left(\frac{n \pi}{a}x}\right)\, dx}\, - \, \sqrt\frac{60}{a^6}} \int_0^a{x^2\sin\left(\frac{n \pi}{a}x}\right)\, dx}[/tex]

...and now I have to integrate by parts. Is this the correct method? The reason I hesitate is that it looks like the final answer will not be only in terms of pi. There will still be some a's left, surely! Yet, the next part asks me to calculate c1, c2, and c3 to seven significant figures! This isn't looking good...I must be missing something.

You are doing it perfectly correctly. Your answer will not contain "a" (it should not since the c_n are dimensionless constants!). You can easily see this by simply looking at the dimension of your integrands. The first has dimension of length squared and the second of length cube, so that wll cancel the factors of a in the normalization constants. As the other poster said, to see this, just change your variable of integration to z=x/a then you will see the a disappearing completely (don`t forget to change your limits of integration too ;-) )


Hope this helps

Pat
 
You're right. I should have said z=x/a.
 
I integrated without changing any variables and found that the a's did indeed drop out. Thanks for your help. I just needed to keep going on this question.
 

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