Can the Same Equation for Moment of Inertia Apply to Non-Uniform Cylinders?

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The discussion centers on the application of the moment of inertia equation to non-uniform cylinders in the context of calculating metacentric height. The formula for buoyancy moment (BM) is established as BM = I/V, where I is the second moment of area and V is the submerged volume. The equation I = πd^4/64 is valid for uniform cylinders, but the second moment of area remains applicable regardless of uniformity. It is clarified that while the moment of inertia incorporates density, the second moment of area does not, leading to the conclusion that they can be related through density for uniform objects.

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second moment of area ?

Homework Statement



In finding the metacentric height of a floating body ( G-center of gravity ,M-metacentric point ,B-buoyancy point )
so if the object is stable then M should be above G .
GM=BM-BG

i have learned that BM=I/V (where I second moment of are about the horizontal center line ,and V is submerged volume)
so if the object is a cylinder i can find I using Pi*d^(4)/64 ...but can i use the same equation if the cylinder is not a uniform one .


And is it the same thing meant by
1)second moment of area
2)Moment of inertia
Or are they two different values ?
Can they be connected using a another varaible ?

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i have learned that BM=I/V (where I second moment of are about the horizontal center line ,and V is submerged volume)
so if the object is a cylinder i can find I using Pi*d^(4)/64 ...but can i use the same equation if the cylinder is not a uniform one .

The second moment of area is similar to the moment of inertia except for one extremely important point:

The moment of inertia includes an integral over density, [tex]\rho[/tex].
[tex]I_{inertia} = \int \rho r^2 dA[/tex].

The second moment of area does not.
[tex]I_{area} = \int r^2 dA[/tex].

Hence, for a uniform object, [tex]I_{inertia} = \rho I_{area}[/tex].

Therefore, the second moment of area is independent of the uniformity of the body.
 
moment of inertia ~ second moment of area

Hi Hao! :smile:

You're right, and you're wrong! :biggrin:

For all normal physicists, you're right …

but some structural engineers use the name https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=31" for the second moment of area, so they can be the same (and in this case I suspect they are)! :rolleyes:
 
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