Can the US lifewipe using nuclear warheads?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using nuclear warheads to wipe out all life on Earth, including extremophiles. Participants explore the implications of nuclear weaponry on life forms, the resilience of ecosystems, and the potential effects of nuclear devastation on various species.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the entire US nuclear arsenal would not be sufficient to eliminate all human life, let alone more resilient organisms like extremophiles.
  • One participant estimates that with ~30,000 nuclear weapons, the average destructive power of a single weapon is not enough to affect large areas, suggesting that many life forms would likely survive a nuclear attempt at lifewiping.
  • Concerns are raised about the devastating effects on the biosphere, including radiation, nuclear winter, and habitat destruction, which could lead to many land species going extinct, but not all.
  • Some participants suggest that simpler organisms such as moss, algae, and soil fungi would likely survive and adapt, indicating the resilience of life.
  • There is a belief that marine life, particularly in deeper waters, would not be significantly affected, as larger species might face extinction due to food web disruptions, but extremophiles would remain largely unaffected.
  • One participant references a website that illustrates the devastation caused by nuclear bombs, noting that even the largest nuclear explosions do not compare to the scale of historical mass extinctions caused by meteorite impacts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the capacity of nuclear weapons to wipe out all life on Earth, with significant disagreement on the resilience of various life forms and the extent of ecological damage.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the exact destructive power of nuclear weapons and the assumptions underlying their estimates. The discussion highlights the complexity of ecological responses to catastrophic events without resolving the implications of these responses.

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By lifewipe I mean wipe out all life on earth, including Extremophiles.
 
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No way. I doubt if the entire US nuclear arsenal could even wipe out all people, let alone tougher organisms.
 
IIRC the US owns ~30k nuclear weapons. Split evenly across the planet that's roughly 1 weapon per 20k square km (a square ~150km on its side). I'm not sure what the destructive power of the average weapon is but as far as I am aware it is nowhere near powerful enough for one weapon to destroy 20k square km.

If this was attempted there would be a devestating affect on the biosphere; radiation, nuclear winter and habitat destruction would probably result in many land species going extinct but I highly doubt all of them would (there are most likely simple organisms like moss, algae, soil fungi, insects etc that would survive and adapt). In addition I can't see marine life being that badly affected. You might cause the extinction of larger species due to disruption of the food web but especially in deeper waters there would be little difference. Extremophiles living deep in the ocean and crust wouldn't even notice what you have done.

Life is extremely resilient. Habitats and ecologists are easy to destabilise do as to cause extinctions (sometimes on a mass scale) but some life somewhere always remains and thanks to a lack of competition will proliferate and adapt to til the depopulated niches.
 
Ryan_m_b said:
IIRC the US owns ~30k nuclear weapons. Split evenly across the planet that's roughly 1 weapon per 20k square km (a square ~150km on its side). I'm not sure what the destructive power of the average weapon is but as far as I am aware it is nowhere near powerful enough for one weapon to destroy 20k square km.

If this was attempted there would be a devestating affect on the biosphere; radiation, nuclear winter and habitat destruction would probably result in many land species going extinct but I highly doubt all of them would (there are most likely simple organisms like moss, algae, soil fungi, insects etc that would survive and adapt). In addition I can't see marine life being that badly affected. You might cause the extinction of larger species due to disruption of the food web but especially in deeper waters there would be little difference. Extremophiles living deep in the ocean and crust wouldn't even notice what you have done.

Life is extremely resilient. Habitats and ecologists are easy to destabilise do as to cause extinctions (sometimes on a mass scale) but some life somewhere always remains and thanks to a lack of competition will proliferate and adapt to til the depopulated niches.
Nice answer. Thanks.
 
Ryan_m_b said:
I'm not sure what the destructive power of the average weapon is but as far as I am aware it is nowhere near powerful enough for one weapon to destroy 20k square km.
jetwaterluffy said:
Nice answer. Thanks.
No problem, to expand on the statement about the destructive power of nuclear weapons http://www.carloslabs.com/projects/200712B/GroundZero.html is a cool/morbid website that allows you to select a location and see how much devastation a nuclear bomb can cause. Using the scale you can see that the at the maximum the B53 nuclear bomb (the largest built by the US the last of which was decommissioned last year) has a radius of about 20km. That's not even the area that will get annihilated that's just the area where some effect will be felt. Even the Russian Tsa Bomba, the largest ever built doesn't get much bigger.

Lastly it's worth bearing in mind that the meteorite impact that created the Chicxulub crater which was many many many times greater than a nuclear explosion didn't even cause the biggest mass extinction on Earth.
 

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