Can the Work-Energy Theorem Determine Speed for Variable Acceleration?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Work-Energy Theorem in the context of variable acceleration, specifically examining a scenario involving distances of 20m and 50m. Participants are exploring whether the same speed can be achieved at both distances given the conditions of variable force.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the validity of using constant acceleration equations for a scenario with variable acceleration. There is discussion about the possibility of checking the 50m case analytically by expressing the variable force as a function and integrating.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants offering different perspectives on the applicability of Newton's second law and kinematic equations. Some suggest that while constant acceleration equations cannot be used, there are analytical methods available for variable acceleration that could provide insights.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the implications of variable force and acceleration, with participants noting the need to clarify the conditions under which the Work-Energy Theorem can be applied. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the methodology for the 50m scenario.

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I was wondering if I did something wrong for the 50m. I did the same process of finding the area under the line. I'm assuming it's possible to get the same speed since the net work is the same.[/B]
 
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Yes, it will be the same as for 20.
 
The 50m cannot be checked because it has a variable force from 20-50 and no longer a constant acceleration
 
PAstudent said:
The 50m cannot be checked because it has a variable force from 20-50 and no longer a constant acceleration
Not sure what you mean. Do you mean it cannot be checked analytically? It can. You would need to express the variable force as a function of x and integrate with respect to x to find the work done.
 
It says explain why Newton's second law and the constant acceleration kinematics equations cannot be used to check for the 50m
 
PAstudent said:
It says explain why Newton's second law and the constant acceleration kinematics equations cannot be used to check for the 50m
Yes, but that says using "constant acceleration" kinematics. As you say, it is not constant acceleration. But it can be checked analytically by using kinematics that cope with variable acceleration because the nature of that variation is known exactly.
 

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