Can We Aim Our Telescopes Towards the Edge of the Universe?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of aiming telescopes towards the edge of the universe, exploring the implications of the universe's potential finiteness or infiniteness, and the nature of light travel over vast distances. It touches on theoretical aspects of cosmology, observational astronomy, and the interpretation of data from the Hubble Space Telescope.

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  • One participant questions whether it is possible to aim telescopes towards the edge of the universe, assuming the universe is finite and expanding.
  • Another participant asserts that it is not known if the universe is finite or infinite, emphasizing that there is no center or edge to the universe.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of the Hubble deep field images, noting that the photons captured have been traveling for approximately 13 billion years, raising questions about what this means for the concept of the universe's center and edge.
  • There is a suggestion that if an edge exists, it would be beyond the currently estimated observable distance of over 40 billion light years, complicating the understanding of distance in cosmology due to the universe's expansion.

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Participants generally agree that the nature of the universe's finiteness or infiniteness is uncertain, and there is no consensus on the existence of a center or edge. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views presented.

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Participants express various assumptions regarding the universe's structure and the implications of light travel, highlighting the complexity of cosmological distances and the effects of expansion on observed light.

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If we are not located at the center of the universe, then when we look out into space are we not sometimes looking towards the center of the universe and at other times towards maybe the edge of the universe. Assume the universe is finite- since we put an age on it, and the fact that it is expanding. Then why can,t we aim our telescopes towards the edge of the universe, if there is one. The Hubble deep field pictures supposedly took in photons that had traveled for some 13 + billions years to get to the telescope, what does that mean? Thirteen billion years for the center of the universe, across the diameter, what?
Also if we could aim a telescope at the edge, would we maybe detect photons that have only traveled a max of a billion years to reacher the telescopes detectors.

This was filled with assumptions, but i think I got the question across.
 
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It is not known whether or not the universe is infinite or finite but it is well known that there is no center and there is no edge. This can be with EITHER finite or infinite.

This question comes up here a couple of times a week, so a forum search will give you a ton of information.
 
As Phinds said it is unknown whether the universe is finite or infinite in size. However, it is known that if it is indeed finite, the size is bigger than we can observe. This is because every direction we look simply looks the same as the one before it. IE we can look just as far in every direction.

The Hubble deep field pictures supposedly took in photons that had traveled for some 13 + billions years to get to the telescope, what does that mean? Thirteen billion years for the center of the universe, across the diameter, what?

The photons from the Hubble Deep Field and Ultra Deep Field have been traveling for a time period of 13 billion years or so. They have been in transit for that long just to get to us.

Also if we could aim a telescope at the edge, would we maybe detect photons that have only traveled a max of a billion years to reacher the telescopes detectors

IF there is an edge, it is further than the current estimated distance of 40+ billion light years, which is the distance from us here on Earth to the furthest we can see. Distance in cosmology is...different...than what you and I deal with here on Earth thanks to the expansion of the Universe. The photons that reached the Hubble Space Telescope traveled for 13 billion years, yet the galaxies they were emitted from are MUCH further away now, as expansion has moved them away from us over time.
 
thats pretty cool thanks
 

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