Can we determine the preference of the pilfering opossums?

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The discussion revolves around determining whether opossums show a preference for small blueberries over large ones based on their consumption patterns of three types of blueberries: highbush, lowbush, and hybrid half-high. Participants analyze the yield percentages and the proportion of blueberries eaten by opossums, exploring the implications of these figures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates that opossums eat 45.8% of large blueberries and 54.2% of small blueberries, suggesting a preference for small blueberries based on these percentages.
  • Another participant questions the initial analysis, pointing out that the hybrid blueberries were not accounted for in the preference assessment and provides a breakdown of the total blueberry plants and their respective consumption rates.
  • Further calculations by participants indicate that opossums consume 17% of large blueberries, 28% of lowbush blueberries, and 55% of hybrid blueberries, suggesting a preference for hybrid blueberries over small ones.
  • Participants discuss the implications of the calculations and the definitions used, particularly regarding the symbol E, which refers to the blueberries eaten by opossums.
  • Some participants refine their calculations to clarify the proportions of blueberries consumed from each type, leading to different interpretations of opossum preferences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether opossums prefer small blueberries or hybrid blueberries, as differing calculations and interpretations of the data lead to multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the analysis, including the initial omission of hybrid blueberries in preference calculations and the reliance on specific yield percentages and consumption rates that may not fully capture opossum behavior.

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Problem:

A farmer plants 3 types of blueberries, namely highbush, lowbush and hybrid half-high in the ratio 5:3:2. The yield of large blueberries among the types are 30% for highbush, 40% for lowbush and 60% for hybrid half-high. It is found that opossums eat 5% of highbush blueberries, 10% of lowbush blueberries and 20% of hybrid half-high blueberries. Is there any evidence to show that opossums prefer small blueberries?

Attempt:
First, I find the percentage of the large blueberries are eaten by the opossums as follows:
P(large blueberries are eaten by the opossums)

=P(L | E)

$\displaystyle =\frac{(0.5 \times 0.3 \times 0.05)+(0.3 \times 0.4 \times 0.1)+(0.2 \times 0.6 \times 0.2)}{(0.5 \times 0.05)+(0.3 \times 0.1)+(0.2 \times 0.2)} \times 100\%$

$\displaystyle =\frac{0.0435}{0.095} \times 100\%$

$\displaystyle =45.8\%$


Second, I get the percentage of the small blueberries that are eaten by the opossums as 100%-45.8%=54.2%.

Therefore, we can say that there is enough evidence to show that opossums prefer small blueberries because the percentage that we obtained for the small blueberries that are eaten by the opossums is 54.2%, which is more than 50%.

Can someone please tell me is my working valid?

Thanks in advance.(Smile)
 
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anemone said:
Problem:

A farmer plants 3 types of blueberries, namely highbush, lowbush and hybrid half-high in the ratio 5:3:2. The yield of large blueberries among the types are 30% for highbush, 40% for lowbush and 60% for hybrid half-high. It is found that opossums eat 5% of highbush blueberries, 10% of lowbush blueberries and 20% of hybrid half-high blueberries. Is there any evidence to show that opossums prefer small blueberries?

Attempt:
First, I find the percentage of the large blueberries are eaten by the opossums as follows:
P(large blueberries are eaten by the opossums)

=P(L | E)

$\displaystyle =\frac{(0.5 \times 0.3 \times 0.05)+(0.3 \times 0.4 \times 0.1)+(0.2 \times 0.6 \times 0.2)}{(0.5 \times 0.05)+(0.3 \times 0.1)+(0.2 \times 0.2)} \times 100\%$

$\displaystyle =\frac{0.0435}{0.095} \times 100\%$

$\displaystyle =45.8\%$


Second, I get the percentage of the small blueberries that are eaten by the opossums as 100%-45.8%=54.2%.

Therefore, we can say that there is enough evidence to show that opossums prefer small blueberries because the percentage that we obtained for the small blueberries that are eaten by the opossums is 54.2%, which is more than 50%.

Can someone please tell me is my working valid?

Thanks in advance.


Hi anemone! :)

What do you mean by the symbol E?
Anyway, you've found that the opossums eat 45.8% large and 54.2% small for a total of 100%.
But... what happened to the hybrid blueberries?Let's start with how much of each plant we get:

That would be a total of 5x30 + 3x40 + 2x60 = 390 plants (with an arbitrary factor that we'll set to 1 without loss of generality).
The amount of highbush is 5x30 = 150.
The amount of lowbush is 3x40 = 120.
The amount of hybrid is 2x60 = 120.

If the opossums didn't care, they would likely eat blueberries in this ratio (null hypothesis H0).

The total that we have observed the opossums to eat is 5% x 150 + 10% x 120 + 20% x 120 = 43.5 plants.
They eat 5% large, which a corresponding fraction of 5% x 150 / (5% x 150 + 10% x 120 + 20% x 120) = 17%
They eat 10% low for 10% x 120 / (5% x 150 + 10% x 120 + 20% x 120) = 28%
They eat 20% hybrid for 20% x 120 / (5% x 150 + 10% x 120 + 20% x 120) = 55%.
Checking... yes the total is 100%.

What we see is that the opossums prefer hybrid by far.
Small blueberries are their second choice.
 
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ILikeSerena said:
Hi anemone! :)

What do you mean by the symbol E?
Anyway, you've found that the opossums eat 45.8% large and 54.2% small for a total of 100%.
But... what happened to the hybrid blueberries?

By the symbol E, I meant the blueberries (all 3 types of them) that are eaten by opossums...
ILikeSerena said:
Let's start with how much of each plant we get:

That would be a total of 5x30 + 3x40 + 2x60 = 390 plants (with an arbitrary factor that we'll set to 1 without loss of generality).
The amount of highbush is 5x30 = 150.
The amount of lowbush is 3x40 = 120.
The amount of hybrid is 2x60 = 120.

If the opossums didn't care, they would likely eat blueberries in this ratio (null hypothesis H0).

The total that we have observed the opossums to eat is 5% x 150 + 10% x 120 + 20% x 120 = 43.5 plants.
They eat 5% large, which a corresponding fraction of 5% x 150 / (5% x 150 + 10% x 120 + 20% x 120) = 17%
They eat 10% low for 10% x 120 / (5% x 150 + 10% x 120 + 20% x 120) = 28%
They eat 20% hybrid for 20% x 120 / (5% x 150 + 10% x 120 + 20% x 120) = 55%.
Checking... yes the total is 100%.

What we see is that the opossums prefer hybrid by far.
Small blueberries are their second choice.

Thanks for answering to my post, ILikeSerena! (Smile)

But I need some time to digest the explanation above. (Tmi)
 
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anemone said:
By the symbol E, I meant the blueberries (all 3 types of them) that are eaten by opossums...

Ah, I see what you mean now.

I'd say that the proportion of large blueberries that opossums eat is:

$P(L | E) = \dfrac{P(L \wedge E)}{P(E)} = \dfrac{\text{fraction of large blueberries eaten}}{\text{total fraction eaten}}$

$P(L | E) = \dfrac{0.5 \times 0.3 \times 0.05}{(0.5 \times 0.3 \times 0.05)+(0.3 \times 0.4 \times 0.1)+(0.2 \times 0.6 \times 0.2)}
\times 100\%= 17.2\%$

$P(S | E) = \dfrac{0.3 \times 0.4 \times 0.1}{(0.5 \times 0.3 \times 0.05)+(0.3 \times 0.4 \times 0.1)+(0.2 \times 0.6 \times 0.2)} \times 100\%= 27.6\%$

$P(H | E) = \dfrac{0.2 \times 0.6 \times 0.2}{(0.5 \times 0.3 \times 0.05)+(0.3 \times 0.4 \times 0.1)+(0.2 \times 0.6 \times 0.2)} \times 100\%= 55.2\%$
 

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