Can you accelerate faster than the speed of light?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the question of whether it is possible to accelerate faster than the speed of light, specifically examining the relationship between acceleration and speed within the framework of relativistic physics. Participants explore theoretical limits on acceleration, the implications of relativistic formulas, and the potential influence of quantum considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that while it is impossible for an object to exceed the speed of light (c), the concept of accelerating faster than c is worth exploring.
  • Others clarify that acceleration and speed have different units and should not be directly compared, emphasizing that acceleration does not have a defined upper limit.
  • One participant presents a relativistic formula indicating that the speed attained will always be less than c, regardless of the acceleration applied over time.
  • A later reply discusses the idea that while there may not be a limit on the magnitude of acceleration, the resulting speed change will still be constrained by relativistic effects.
  • Another participant introduces the notion of quantum limits, suggesting that there may be a maximum velocity attainable in one Planck unit of time, although this remains speculative due to the lack of experimental evidence.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the calculations of speed based on specific acceleration values and time intervals, with an example showing that the resulting speed would be less than 0.5c.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the limits of acceleration and the implications of relativistic physics. There is no consensus on whether there are ultimate limits to acceleration or speed changes, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the influence of quantum mechanics on these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the definitions of acceleration and speed, as well as the applicability of relativistic formulas. The implications of quantum considerations are also noted as speculative and not experimentally verified.

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hello all,
I know that it is impossible for something to have a speed greater than c, is it possible however to accelerate faster than c? For example, would it be possible to accelerate something at 4c/s for 1/8 of a second, resulting in a speed of 1/2c?
 
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Acceleration and speed have different units, you cannot compare them.
 
There's no limit on the magnitude of "a" but the resulting speed change is less than "at".
 
DaleSpam said:
Acceleration and speed have different units, you cannot compare them.

im not comparing them to each other. I am asking if acceleration has a limit, using the limit of v=c as an example.

ghwellsjr said:
There's no limit on the magnitude of "a" but the resulting speed change is less than "at".

This isn't clear to me, at=v, did you mean at<c?
 
The relativistic formula for the speed attained according to the rest frame is

[itex]v/c=(at/c)/sqrt(1+(at/c)^2)[/itex]

Plug in any values you want for the constant proper acceleration and the length of time of acceleration according to the rest frame and the resulting speed will always be less than c.
 
MrInteresting said:
hello all,
I know that it is impossible for something to have a speed greater than c, is it possible however to accelerate faster than c? For example, would it be possible to accelerate something at 4c/s for 1/8 of a second, resulting in a speed of 1/2c?

Broadly speaking the upper limit to the acceleration is infinite and certainly greater than 1c/s^2. The correct equation for the terminal velocity due a given constant proper velocity has been given by grav-universe. The choice of 1 seconds as the time unit for acceleration is arbitrary and we can always find a smaller unit of time where the speed of light limit is not broken in that time. What is debatable is whether there is a limit imposed by quantum considerations such as the maximum velocity attainable in one Planck unit of time, which depends upon whether the Plank unit is an indivisible "quanta" of time, but since no experiments have ever been carried out in these extremes, I would be moving into the realm of pure conjecture. Consider it just an idle thought :wink: Maybe we will learn more when someone comes up with a true Theory of Everything and quantum gravity, but as far as I know, SR and GR do not put an upper limit on acceleration.
 
MrInteresting said:
ghwellsjr said:
There's no limit on the magnitude of "a" but the resulting speed change is less than "at".
This isn't clear to me, at=v, did you mean at<c?
No, I was taking what I thought you were doing in your example:
MrInteresting said:
For example, would it be possible to accelerate something at 4c/s for 1/8 of a second, resulting in a speed of 1/2c?
I thought you had a=4c/s and t=1/8 s and you multiplied according to v=at to get v=1/2 c and I was pointing out that the speed would be less than 0.5c. In fact, using grav-universe's formula it comes out to 0.447c.
 

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