Can you help me understand helicopter aerodynamics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around understanding helicopter aerodynamics, specifically focusing on calculating cruise and maximum speeds, as well as climbing speed based on various parameters such as weight, motor power, and altitude. The inquiry seeks simpler formulas or resources, indicating a conceptual exploration rather than a deep technical analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to calculate helicopter speeds and climbing rates but finds existing resources too complex.
  • Another participant notes that performance varies significantly based on the specific design of the helicopter.
  • A follow-up question asks which specifications are critical for determining vertical and horizontal speeds beyond weight and motor power.
  • It is suggested that two helicopters with the same weight and horsepower may still exhibit different speeds due to factors like shape and motor efficiency.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of understanding total thrust/lift from rotor blades and how thrust vectors can be adjusted by the pilot to achieve different flight directions.
  • A participant invites corrections to their explanation, indicating a collaborative approach to sharing knowledge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that helicopter performance is influenced by various design specifications, but there is no consensus on which specific factors are most critical or how to simplify the calculations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks detailed definitions of terms and assumptions regarding the calculations, which may affect the clarity of the inquiry. There are also unresolved mathematical steps related to thrust and lift calculations.

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Hi,
I have some questions about helicopter aerodynamics. I have been searching the web (and this forum) up and down but I could not find the answer. Maybe you can help.

I want to calculate the cruise and maximum speeds of a helicopter given the weight, motor power, height (assuming pressure decreases linearly). I also want to calculate the climbing speed given the same data.

I found some books about helicopter aerodynamics (Bramwell) but they are much too detailed for me since I am no aeronautics or mechanical engineer.

Can you give me some simple formulas or point me to good sites?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Or am I simplifying too much?
 
it depends on the design specifics of the helicopter. performance changes from helicopter to helicopter.
 
Thanks for the reply. OK, it depends on the specs of the helicopter. Then which specs are critical for vertical and horizontal speed other than weight and motor power, height? What am I missing here?
 
Or are you saying that two helicopters may have same weight and horse power but they can have different horizontal and vertical speeds based on their shapes, motor efficiency and similar things?
 
u must know the total thrust/lift from the rotor blades.
from there, u'll have the excess thrust/lift to make the heli climbing up.

since the rotor plane can be tilted to the front, aft, left and right...the total thrust/lift vector also can be change according to collective input by the pilot.

this vector can be solve into vertical and lateral vector (using trigo).
vertical vector or lift will balance the heli's weight, make it stay afloat,
while lateral vector (either to forward, rearward, leftward or rightward) will propel the heli to the vector's direction.

* pls correct me if I'm wrong, just want to share what i know...
 

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