Can You Identify This Fossil Found in Sonora, CA?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the identification of a fossil discovered in Sonora, CA, with participants exploring its potential age and classification. The conversation includes various hypotheses about the fossil's nature and geological context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the fossil resembles a shell, estimating its age to be between 2-5 million years old.
  • Another participant proposes that the fossil could be an ammonite, noting its spiral shell structure and providing context about ammonites' buoyancy and habitat.
  • A different participant agrees with the ammonite identification but emphasizes that ammonites have existed for around 500 million years, making them less useful for precise dating.
  • One participant describes the fossil as a cast, explaining the formation process involving silt filling the shell's chambers after the organism's death.
  • A final participant confidently identifies the fossil as an ammonite, comparing it to their own collection of ammonite fragments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While there is a general consensus that the fossil is likely an ammonite, there is uncertainty regarding its specific age and the implications of ammonites' long geological history on dating the fossil.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of expertise, and some claims depend on assumptions about the fossil's characteristics and the geological context of the find. The discussion does not resolve the exact age or classification of the fossil.

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Individuals interested in paleontology, fossil identification, or geological history may find this discussion relevant.

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I was walking along the shore of New Melones Resevoir in Sonora, CA last weekend and I stumbled upon this awesome fossil of some sort. PLease help me idetifty what it is and how old it might be.
THanks
 

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I'm no professional but it just looks like a shell to me. I think most shell fossils found date back like 2-5 mya
 
I'm no palaeontologist, or even a geologist, but my first instinct was ammonite, named for the curly, spirally type shell which is reminiscent of the Egyptian ram god Amon's horns. It's a fragment of course, and most likely a mould at that.

The rock is a fine grained sediment, probably calcareous limestone of sorts. If that's the case then the fossil originates from the ocean. Ammonites used to float (or maybe swim?) around in the ocean and had infllatable soft bodies to give them buoyancy; when they died they sunk to the bottom.

I have no idea of the full time period of ammonites, but I've found the fossils myself in Jurassic and Cretaceous rocks around 100 to 200 Million years old.
 
Probably some form of ammonite - like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus (edit yes I know a nautilus isn't an ammonite)
Unfortunately they have been around for 500Myr and don't change much so they aren't all that useful for dating rocks.

Your fossil is a cast - the radial arcs standing up from the rock were the hollow chambers in the shell. When the creature died these filled with silt and then as the shell decayed the silt formed a solid rock cast of the inside of the body.
 
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Definitely an Ammonite. Looks a lot like a few of the smaller Ammonite fragments I have at home.
 

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