Cannon and coefficient of friction between ground

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The problem involves a cannon firing a shell and seeks to determine the coefficient of friction between the cannon and the ground. It is situated within the context of mechanics, specifically focusing on momentum conservation and frictional forces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of momentum conservation to find the initial velocity of the cannon after firing the shell. There are questions regarding the initial conditions and how to proceed with calculations related to the cannon's motion and friction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying the initial conditions and exploring the relationship between the cannon and the shell's momentum. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to find the cannon's velocity after firing, but there is no consensus on the next steps or formulas to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions and implications of momentum conservation, as well as the appropriate formulas to apply in this scenario. There is uncertainty regarding the calculations of acceleration due to friction.

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A 3000kg cannon fires a 14 kg shell horizontally with a muzzle velocity of 450m/s. The cannon recoils for a distance of 2.5m before coming to a stop. What is the coefficient of friction between the cannon and the ground that it rests upon?

mcannon= 3000kg
mball=14kg
v1ball=0
v2ball=450m/s
v1cannon = 0
v2cannon= ?

I don't really know where to begin with this question.. Is it a momentum/impulse question or something else? Please help..
 
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Use momentum conservation to find the initial velocity of the cannon.
 
kuruman said:
Use momentum conservation to find the initial velocity of the cannon.

Wouldn't the initial velocity of the cannon be zero though since both the ball and the cannon start off at rest? If I were to find the v2 of the cannon though, how would I proceed with the rest of the solution?
 
Yes, initial velocity is 0. What kuruman meant was the thing you call v2, that is, the velocity of the cannon at the instant it fired the cannonball.

After finding v2, can you find the acceleration that friction exerts on the object?
 
Yes, the initial velocity (and momentum) of the cannon and shell system is zero. The final momentum of the cannon and shell system will also be zero. However, before the shell is fired nothing is moving, but after the shell is fired, both cannon and shell are moving.
 
ideasrule said:
Yes, initial velocity is 0. What kuruman meant was the thing you call v2, that is, the velocity of the cannon at the instant it fired the cannonball.

After finding v2, can you find the acceleration that friction exerts on the object?

Would I use the formula v12 = v22 - 1/2ad?

Am I using the wrong formula..? Because I seem to get this massive number as the acceleration..
 
What is the definition of momentum? Momentum conservation says

Momentum before = Momentum after.
 

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