Canonical Partition function for 2 Fermions with two energy levels

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The discussion revolves around the canonical partition function for two identical fermions occupying two energy levels, \(E_0\) and \(E_1\), in a thermodynamic system. The participants explore the implications of Fermi-Dirac statistics and the effects of particle spin on the possible configurations and total energies of the system.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the partition function and the total energies associated with different configurations of the two fermions. There is debate over the degeneracy of the energy states and how to account for particle spin in the configurations.

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Several interpretations of the problem statement are being explored, particularly regarding the allowed configurations of the fermions and the implications of the Pauli exclusion principle. Some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions made regarding spin and degeneracy, while others provide differing counts of the possible states and energies.

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The original problem statement lacks clarity on the spin of the particles and the degree of degeneracy for the energy levels, leading to varied interpretations among participants. This ambiguity is central to the ongoing discussion.

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Homework Statement
Consider two identical particles that follow Fermi-Dirac statistics in a thermodynamical system with two energy levels, ##E_0## and ##E_1##, ##E_1 > E_0##, that do no interact and are in contact with a heat reservoir at temperature ##T##. Determine the canonical partition function.
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##Z = \sum_\text{all configurations} e^{-\beta E}##
My solution is

$$
Z = e^{-2\beta E_0} + 4 e^{-\beta (E_0 + E_1)} + e^{-2\beta E_1},
$$

since Fermions have non-zero spin and there are four options for distributing spins (assuming only ##\pm \frac{1}{2}##) among ##E_0## and ##E_1## such that ##E_\text{tot} = E_0 + E_1## and one option each that leads to a total energy of ##2E_{0,1}##. However, I'm not sure whether or not the terms ##e^{-2\beta E_{0,1}}## should also be weighted with a degeneracy factor (##2## in this case), because both up / down and down / up are possible. The quantum state remains identical under swapping the spins, but it also leads to an additional option to obtain the same total energy.

Help is appreciated, have a great day everyone.
 
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Just list the possible total energies and the particle configurations for each. You have
##(E_0,E_0)\rightarrow 2E_0##
##(E_1,E_0)\rightarrow E_0+E_1##
##(E_0,E_1)\rightarrow E_0+E_1##
##(E_1,E_1)\rightarrow 2E_1##
The degeneracy for the middle energy is 2 not 4.
 
kuruman said:
Just list the possible total energies and the particle configurations for each. You have
##(E_0,E_0)\rightarrow 2E_0##
##(E_1,E_0)\rightarrow E_0+E_1##
##(E_0,E_1)\rightarrow E_0+E_1##
##(E_1,E_1)\rightarrow 2E_1##
The degeneracy for the middle energy is 2 not 4.

Alright, thank you!
 
PhysicsRock said:
Homework Statement: Consider two identical particles that follow Fermi-Dirac statistics in a thermodynamical system with two energy levels, ##E_0## and ##E_1##, ##E_1 > E_0##, that do no interact and are in contact with a heat reservoir at temperature ##T##. Determine the canonical partition function.
The homework statement doesn't specify the spin of the particles. Also, it doesn't specify the degree of degeneracy of each of the one-particle energy levels (##E_0## and ##E_1##). So, to me, the statement is ambiguous.

To make the problem specific, you've taken the particle spin to be 1/2. Also, you've assumed that the only degeneracy of an energy level is that due to spin; that is, flipping the spin of a particle does not change the energy of the particle.

With these assumptions, there is only one two-particle state with total energy ##2E_0## and one two-particle state with total energy ##2E_1##. There are four two-particle states with total energy ##E_0 + E_1##.

So, I agree with your solution for ##Z## for the two-particle system:
PhysicsRock said:
My solution is

$$
Z = e^{-2\beta E_0} + 4 e^{-\beta (E_0 + E_1)} + e^{-2\beta E_1},
$$

However, @kuruman disagrees. So, I could be wrong. Or, maybe we have different interpretations of the problem statement.
 
TSny said:
There are four two-particle states with total energy ##E_0+E_1.##
How do you count 4? This is how I count 2.

We are told that two particles are at thermal equilibrium with a reservoir and that each has two energy states characterized by ##E_0## and ##E_1.## To me this means that they can absorb thermal energy ##E_1-E_0## from the reservoir and transit from ##E_0## to ##E_1## or that they can deposit thermal energy ##E_1-E_0## into the reservoir and transit from ##E_1## to ##E_0.##

We are also told that they are non-interacting. To me this means that each particle does its own thing independently of the other. Now I count microstates of the two-particle ensemble (it's like tossing two coins and looking at the possibilities of heads and tails) and I get the results posted in #2:
##(E_0,E_0)\rightarrow 2E_0##
##(E_1,E_0)\rightarrow E_0+E_1##
##(E_0,E_1)\rightarrow E_0+E_1##
##(E_1,E_1)\rightarrow 2E_1##

The spin does not enter the picture. Even if it did, and we further assumed that particles interact and can be spin-coupled, we would still have a total of 4 microstates, one triplet (##S=1##) with a degeneracy of 3 and a non-degenerate singlet (##S=0##) separated by some energy proportional to the coupling constant.
 
kuruman said:
We are told that two particles are at thermal equilibrium with a reservoir and that each has two energy states characterized by ##E_0## and ##E_1.##
There are two energy levels, but we are not given any information about the number of single-particle states with energy ##E_0## and the number of states with energy ##E_1##. If there is only one single-particle quantum state available for each energy level, we cannot put two particles into the same energy level. That would violate the Pauli exclusion principle for Fermi-Dirac statistics. So, ##(E_0, E_0)## and ##(E_1, E_1)## would not be allowed.

Consider the one-dimensional particle in a box with ground-state energy ##E_0## and first excited-state energy ##E_1##. Ignore all higher energy levels. For a single spin 1/2 particle in the box, there are two states available for ##E_0##. One state has "spin up" and the other "spin down". So, ##E_0## is doubly degenerate. Likewise for ##E_1##.

If we put two identical, noninteracting, spin-1/2 particles in the box, there is one allowed two-particle state where both particles have energy ##E_0##. In this state, the two spins are opposite and form a spin singlet. Likewise, there is one two-particle singlet state where both particles have energy ##E_1##.

There are four two-particle states with one particle in the ground state and one in the excited state. One of these states is a spin singlet. The other three states correspond to a spin triplet.
 
TSny said:
If there is only one single-particle quantum state available for each energy level, we cannot put two particles into the same energy level. That would violate the Pauli exclusion principle for Fermi-Dirac statistics. So, ##(E_0, E_0)## and ##(E_1, E_1)## would not be allowed.
I know what you are trying to say but it does not come out right. ##(E_0,E_0)## is allowed if one particle is spin-up and the other spin down. It is not allowed if both are spin up (or down).

That said, I confess that I interpreted rather loosely the "not interacting" part and disregarded the statement that the particles "follow Fermi-Dirac statistics." To redeem myself, I post a schematic of the six microstates below for indistinguishable fermions. The number of microstates having energy ##E_0+E_1## is indeed 4. My apologies for the confusion.

Microstates.png
 
kuruman said:
I know what you are trying to say but it does not come out right. ##(E_0,E_0)## is allowed if one particle is spin-up and the other spin down. It is not allowed if both are spin up (or down).
Agreed. For a spin 1/2 particle, there is a state with energy ##E_0## having spin up and another state with energy ##E_0## having spin down. So, there are two states of the particle with energy ##E_0## and, likewise, two states of the particle with energy ##E_1##. So, we can have ##(E_0, E_0)## or ##(E_1, E_1)## without violating the exclusion principle.

My comment that ##(E_0, E_0)## would violate the exclusion principle was regarding your statement:
kuruman said:
We are told that two particles are at thermal equilibrium with a reservoir and that each has two energy states characterized by ##E_0## and ##E_1.##
(I've added emphasis to the word states.) I interpreted this to mean that each particle (not necessarily spin 1/2) has only one state characterized by ##E_0## (not two states) and one state characterized by energy ##E_1## (not two states). So, in this case, ##(E_0, E_0)## would imply both particles are in the same quantum state in violation of exclusion. I probably misinterpreted your statement. I think we're on the same page.

The problem statement is unclear to me because it does not provide any information for deciding how many single-particle states have energy ##E_0## or energy ##E_1##. For spin 1/2 particles there are systems for which there are more than two single particle states associated with a particular energy level.

For example, consider the system to be a two-dimensional box with length in the x-direction equal to length in the y-direction. Let ##n_x## and ##n_y## denote the quantum numbers associated with the different spatial wavefunctions. The states ##[n_x, n_y] = [1, 0]## and ##[n_x, n_y] = [0, 1]## would then be different states with the same energy ##E_1##. So, even without spin, there is two-fold degeneracy of level ##E_1##. If the particles are spin 1/2, we have additional degeneracy due to spin. Thus, there would be a total of four distinct quantum states of energy ##E_1##. For a cubical box (three dimensions), the degeneracy of ##E_1## would be 6 for spin 1/2 particles.

If we don't know the degeneracy of the energy levels, we can't derive the partition function ##Z##.
 
TSny said:
If we don't know the degeneracy of the energy levels, we can't derive the partition function ##Z##.
Sure, but since the degeneracy of the levels (other than the implicit spin degeneracy) is not explicitly mentioned I would take the default assumption that ##E_0## and ##E_1## are non-degenerate.
 
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kuruman said:
Sure, but since the degeneracy of the levels (other than the implicit spin degeneracy) is not explicitly mentioned I would take the default assumption that ##E_0## and ##E_1## are non-degenerate.
Yes. That would be the natural assumption. It’s the assumption made by @PhysicsRock.
 

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