Can't find a solution to this integral

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of solving a complex integral involving exponential functions and square roots. Participants explore various methods and substitutions to approach the problem, which is framed within a mathematical context.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in solving the integral and mentions attempts using Euler's formula, which led to increased complexity.
  • Another participant suggests starting with a specific variable and proposes a substitution involving the exponential function.
  • A participant elaborates on using Euler's formula to express the exponential in terms of sine and cosine, leading to a new integral that still presents challenges.
  • Further, a substitution involving a new variable is proposed, transforming the integral into a different form that may be more manageable.
  • Another participant confirms the approach and suggests a substitution that simplifies the integral to an elementary form.

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Participants generally agree on the need for substitutions and transformations to tackle the integral, but there is no consensus on a definitive solution or method, as various approaches are discussed.

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The discussion includes multiple mathematical transformations and substitutions, but the effectiveness of each method remains unresolved, and assumptions about the variables involved are not fully explored.

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Hi,

I try to solve this integral, but I failed... I have tried Euler's formula but it only got more and more complex. Can anyone help me?

<br /> \int_{0}^{T}\int_{0}^{L}\frac{e^{2i(\omega t+\alpha x)}}{\sqrt{1-a e^{2i(\omega t+\alpha x)}}}dx dt<br />
 
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Hi, you must decide respect what variable you want to start ..., after I suggest a substitution of the exponential ...
 
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Thanks for your post. I start with dx. I can write

e^{2i(\omega t + \alpha x)} = \cos{(2\omega t + 2\alpha x)} + i \sin{(2\omega t + 2\alpha x)}
and then for the first term
\cos{(2\omega t + 2\alpha x)} = \cos{(2\omega t)}\cos{(2\alpha x)} - \sin{(2\omega t)}\sin{(2\alpha x)}
Thus, the first integral to solve would still be:
\cos{(2\omega t)} \int_{0}^{L} \frac{\cos{(2\alpha x)}}{\sqrt{1-a e^{2i (\omega t + \alpha x)}}}

I can of course use Euler's formula in the root as well, but it does not help yet.

Or I substitute with
k = 2 i (\alpha x + \omega t)
dx = \frac{1}{2i\alpha} dk
and come up with an integral like
\frac{1}{2i\alpha} \int \frac{e^k}{\sqrt{1-ae^k}} dk
 
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exactly! :wink: Now substitute ##1-ae^{k}=w## so ##e^{k}dk=-\frac{dw}{a}## and the integral become elementary ...
 
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Thanks!
 
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