Capacitance of a parallel plate capacitor with 2 dielectrics

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The discussion revolves around calculating the capacitance of a parallel plate capacitor that contains two different dielectrics. The original poster presents an attempt involving integration to derive the capacitance based on the configuration of the dielectrics and the geometry of the capacitor.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the capacitance using integration, defining small capacitors for each dielectric and summing them. Some participants question the correctness of the expressions used, particularly regarding the area and the final integral form. Others raise concerns about the implications of substituting equal dielectric constants.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach. There are indications of differing interpretations regarding the mathematical expressions and limits involved in the calculations. No consensus has been reached, but constructive critiques are being offered.

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Participants note potential issues with the expressions derived, particularly concerning the area of the elementary capacitor and the implications of equal dielectric constants leading to indeterminate forms.

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Homework Statement



Find the capacitance of the parallel plate capacitor with 2 dielectrics below. Given that the parallel plate capacitor has area A = WL and the separation between plates is d.

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The Attempt at a Solution



My method is to use integration. First solve for two small capacitors dC1, dC2 and then sum them up in parallel.

[tex]y = \frac{d}{L}x[/tex]

[tex]dC_1 = \frac{\kappa_1 \epsilon_0 WL dx}{d(L-x)}[/tex]

[tex]dC_2 = \frac{\kappa_2 \epsilon_0 WL}{d} \frac{1}{x} dx[/tex]

[tex]dC = \frac{dC_1 dC_2}{dC_1 + dC_2} = \frac{\kappa_1 \kappa_2 \epsilon_0 WL}{d} \cdot \frac{1}{\kappa_2 L + x(\kappa_1 - \kappa_2)}[/tex]

[tex]C = \frac{\kappa_1\kappa_2 \epsilon_0 WL}{d(\kappa_1 - \kappa_2)} \left[ ln (\kappa_2 L + x(\kappa_1 - \kappa_2) \right]_0^L[/tex]

The expression is definitely wrong. If we let the two dielectrics have equal value k, we should expect C to follow that of a single dielectric, C' = kC.
 
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You have one more L in the expressions of dC. The area of an elementary capacitor is Wdx.

ehild
 
Ok, but L is a constant and having amended that, it doesn't make the final integral any more correct. The ln form of the last equation is still clearly wrong.
 
Are you sure that the ln is wrong? You can not simply substitute K1=K2, it will lead to 0/0. You have to take the limit K2/K1-->1.
ehild
 
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