Capacitors - m having problem calculating the potential difference

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the potential difference across points A and B in a circuit involving capacitors. The original poster presents their approach using Kirchhoff's loop law but encounters discrepancies with the expected answer.

Discussion Character

  • Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Kirchhoff's loop law to derive equations for charge distribution and potential difference but questions where their reasoning may have gone wrong. Other participants suggest simplifying the circuit to find equivalent capacitance and question the original poster's variable assignments.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, providing suggestions for alternative approaches and checking the validity of the equations used. There is a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the correctness of the original poster's solution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the application of Kirchhoff's rules and the handling of variables, indicating potential gaps in understanding the circuit's configuration. The original poster also notes having an alternate solution but feels it may not apply to complex capacitor problems.

exuberant.me
Messages
29
Reaction score
1
Q) In the adjacent circuit, find the potential difference across AB
qxuomb.jpg


Fine , now i did the charge distribution as follows
xpyjcm.png


Now in the first loop (sorry i forgot to mention the points in my image)
applying kirchhoffs loop law
10 = q1/8 + q/8

or, q + q1 = 80

Next in the second loop

q1/8 + (q - q1)/8 + (q - q1)/8 = 0

or, 2q - q1 = 0
or, q1 = 2q

gives, q = 80/3 uc

Again in the second loop
VA - (q - q1)/8 - q1/8 = VB

=> VA - VB = q/8 = 10/3 V
but answer says its 2V.

Definitely i m wrong but where?

Any help is appreciated..!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I'm not sure I follow the q-q1 arguments... and kirchhoff's loop rule seems to be producing more variables then equations for me, so I would suggest something else.

1) Ignoring AB for the moment, can you reduce the circuit into a simpler circuit with equivalent capacitance? Clearly draw out the transformation, because you'll need it to find Vab later!

The following rules might be useful:

1/C_{1} + 1/C_{2} = 1/C_{eq}
C_{1} + C_{2} = C_{eq}

But I'm leaving it to you to know when to use which!
 
i don't knw why i always get those suggestions i probably knw.. :P

dear what i want you to do is check what's wrong in my soln...
if u cud please point out my mistake, that would help me clear 100 doubts of mine...
i obviously have an alternate soln.. the one you posted using it...
but they don't actually work in complex capacitor problems.
Thank you!
 
Check your equation for the second loop. It looks like you're going counterclockwise around the loop. Be sure to use the "leading" charge expression (expression for the charge on the first plate encountered on your KVL walk) for each capacitor. Could be you used the wrong one for the first term in your equation...
 
i think i m pretty correct in my soln..
Rather the answer given is wrong...!
 
exuberant.me said:
i think i m pretty correct in my soln..
Rather the answer given is wrong...!
"Pretty correct" is not quite the same thing as "correct" :smile:

The answer should be 2V as advertised.
 
yup u r not "pretty right" u r "right" this time and me to.. lol.. :P

got it finally...

q + q1 = 80 and 2q = 3q1 and simply, Va - Vb = (q - q1)/8 = 16/8 = 2V.

Thanks!
 

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
28
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
7K
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
14K
Replies
19
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K