Car Coasting Down a Circular Hill: Which Free-Body Diagram is Correct?

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The discussion revolves around a car coasting at a constant speed over a circular hill, focusing on identifying the correct free-body diagram from provided options. Participants are exploring the implications of constant speed and the nature of forces acting on the car in the context of circular motion.

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the correct free-body diagram by analyzing the forces acting on the car. Questions are raised regarding the nature of acceleration when speed is constant, and whether the car's direction change implies acceleration.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between speed, velocity, and acceleration. Some participants have provided insights into the nature of circular motion and the direction of forces involved, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct diagram yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of circular motion and the definitions of acceleration, with some uncertainty about the implications of the car's motion over the hill. The discussion reflects a mix of assumptions and interpretations regarding the forces at play.

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A car coasts at a constant speed over a circular hill. Which of the free-body diagrams in the figure attached is correct? Explain.

My attempt:
I am thinking B. Since the car is at a constant speed, there's no acceleration. So there is no additional force acting downwards besides it's weight.

Which would you choose? Explain please.

Thanks
 

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BrownBoi7 said:
Since the car is at a constant speed, there's no acceleration.
Careful. Acceleration means a change in velocity, not necessarily speed.
 
That makes sense. I still haven't figured my answer yet. Should I still stick with B?
 
BrownBoi7 said:
That makes sense. I still haven't figured my answer yet. Should I still stick with B?
You tell me. Is the car accelerating? (Is its velocity changing as it goes over the hill?)
 
The car is constantly changing direction, along with it changes something else, why do you think that is?
 
Yes the car is constantly changing direction. Velocity is not constant in which case. This means there is some acceleration.

Should I go with 3?
 
BrownBoi7 said:
Yes the car is constantly changing direction. Velocity is not constant in which case. This means there is some acceleration.
Good!

What's the direction of the acceleration (and thus the net force)?
 
This question is very similar to centripetal motion.
There is a net force towards the center even if the speed is constant.The direction changes towards center.So the force is acting towards center


EDIT:(Changed to a spoiler)
 
W = mg ---acting downwards
N = Normal Force ---acting upwards opposite to W
A= acceleration --- acting downwards. Looking at the figure, it's clear the car is going downhill. So we can treat it as a circular motion problem?

Option A would best describe the scenario.
 
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BrownBoi7 said:
W = mg ---acting downwards
N = Normal Force ---acting upwards opposite to W
All true.

A= acceleration --- acting downwards. Looking at the figure, it's clear the car is going downhill. So we can treat it as a circular motion problem?
The key is not that the car is going downhill, but that it is going over a circular hill. Yes, this is a circular motion problem. So what's the direction of the centripetal acceleration? Use that to figure out the direction of the net force and thus the correct choice.
 

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