Car fuel efficiency/throttle position?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods of driving that may enhance fuel efficiency in vehicles, particularly comparing different throttle positions and shifting strategies. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects related to engine performance, fuel consumption, and driving techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that accelerating with a slightly open throttle and delaying upshifting until high RPM may yield better fuel efficiency.
  • Others argue that running at about 35% of redline RPM and 80% of maximum torque with wide open throttle is optimal based on brake specific fuel consumption (BSFC) maps.
  • One participant mentions shifting at 2000 to 2200 RPM for manual transmissions, while keeping RPM between 1500 and 2000 in city driving.
  • There are recommendations for various driving habits to improve MPG, such as maintaining tire pressure, keeping windows up, and using synthetic oil.
  • Some participants caution against driving in too high a gear, stating it may require more fuel than driving in a lower gear around the BSFC peak.
  • There are suggestions for vehicle maintenance, such as replacing spark plugs and cleaning air filters, to potentially enhance fuel efficiency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best driving techniques for fuel efficiency, with no clear consensus on the optimal method. Some agree on the importance of maintaining certain RPMs and shifting strategies, while others challenge these ideas, indicating a contested discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that actual fuel efficiency can depend on various factors, including engine size and vehicle type. There are also assumptions about the relevance of certain driving techniques that may not apply universally across all vehicles.

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Which method of driving results in higher fuel efficiency? a) accelerating with the throttle only slightly open and delaying upshifting until high engine RPM or b) accelerating with the throttle full open (pedal to the metal) but at low engine RPM/upshifting early?
 
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The best engine efficiency based on BSFC (brake specific fuel consumption) maps is to run at about 35% of redline RPM and about 80% of maxumum torque (wide open throttle). I typically shift up (manual transmission) at about 2000 to 2200 RPM unless I need more acceleration. In the city, where you usually need no more than about 10 HP, I keep the RPM between 1500 and 2000 RPM, and usually get into 5th gear about 30 mph. The manual transmission is about 96% efficient, except in 4th gear which is about 98%. An automatic is typically only about 85% efficient,
 
Bob S said:
I typically shift up (manual transmission) at about 2000 to 2200 RPM
The actual numbers are dependent on the size of the engine.
Basically go as slow as possible in as high a gear as possible
 
regardless of the induction system, carb, direct port , throttle body..ifin you want to save MPG, drive it like you got an egg between the go pedal and yer foot!
better yet, switch to synthetic oil once the engine is broke in,
keep the tires inflated , max end of the recommended PSI, on 1990 and newer cars keep all windows UP..the old myth of no air conditioner and open the windows is not applicable to todays cars..max MPG requires mucho AERO and windows up gives max MPG, opening a window on new models severley impacts MPG
replace spark plugs after 30000 miles
go to Iridium spark plugs.. $ 8 each but require 5000 volts less to light
check and clean air filter regularly
light is better so take all those old empties out of the car
want to experiment a little
keep the car waxed..slick is better..ok maybe yields .1 more mpg but hey..it all helps
 
mgb_phys said:
The actual numbers are dependent on the size of the engine.
Basically go as slow as possible in as high a gear as possible

No. Driving in too high a gear will require more fuel than driving in a lower gear around the BSFC peak.

Ranger Mike said:
regardless of the induction system, carb, direct port , throttle body..ifin you want to save MPG, drive it like you got an egg between the go pedal and yer foot!

Correct. If that means changing down a gear and using less throttle, do it.
 

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