Carnot engine acting upon another Carnot engine

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The discussion centers on the efficiency of a black box acting as an engine when an additional electromotive force (emf) is applied. The efficiency is defined as the ratio of power delivered to the load (P_{\ell}) to the power applied to the black box (P_b). When an emf (E_{ap}) is introduced, the black box can transition from supplying power to acting as a load, affecting its efficiency. The proposed efficiency formula is P_{\ell} / (P_b + I * E_{ap}), which suggests a relationship bounded by the Carnot efficiency.

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Homework Statement


Suppose an amount of power P_{\ell} is delivered to a load by a black box with potential difference V_T across it, driving current I through a single loop. If an amount of power P_b is applied to the black box, to sustain I at V_T, then the efficiency of this black box acting as an engine is P_{\ell}/P_b.

Now, suppose you have exactly the same black box, exactly the same load, but an additional device (in series, so it's still a single loop) applying an emf E_{ap} and a current I. The black box may still supply power, but if E_{ap} is large enough in magnitude, the black box becomes a load. However, the black box dissipates less power when the amount of power P_b applied earlier is applied to the black box. More power P_{\ell} is delivered to the load due to the application of P_b.

My question is: what would be the efficiency of the black box (if such a quantity exists) in its increasing P_{\ell} due to the application of P_b when it is "assisting" the applied emf E_{ap}?

Homework Equations


Energy conservation is P_{\ell} = V_T * I in the "non-assisted" case, and P_{\ell} = (E_{ap} - V_T) * I in the "assisted" case.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried "guessing" an efficiency of P_{\ell} / (P_b + I * E_{ap}). If P_b is the heat flow from a temperature-difference between temperatures T_L and T_R, I ought to get something bounded between 0 and the Carnot efficiency.
 
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