What is the Temperature of the Low Temperature Reservoir in a Carnot Engine?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a Carnot engine problem, specifically focusing on determining the temperature of the low temperature reservoir given a high temperature of 100K and certain parameters related to work and power output.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the efficiency equation of the Carnot engine and its implications for calculating the low temperature reservoir. There are discussions about the relationship between work done, power, and temperature differences. Some participants question whether the efficiency equation is relevant to the problem and suggest that other factors, such as gas expansion, might be critical.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering various insights and questioning assumptions about the Carnot cycle and its parameters. Some participants express uncertainty about the relevance of the efficiency equation, while others highlight the need for a minimum temperature difference for the engine to function effectively.

Contextual Notes

There are indications that additional context or examples from course materials may be necessary to fully understand the problem setup. Participants note the unusually low high temperature and its implications for the engine's operation.

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Homework Statement


A Carnot engine moves a piston which applies 5N of force to a rotating disc by moving a piston 0.25cm for
a total of 5W of power. If the high temperature reservoir is 100K, what must the temperature of the low
temperature reservoir be?

Homework Equations


The efficiency of a Carnot engine is given by the formula
e = 1-TLo/THi.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know you can rearrange the efficiency equation and solve for Tlo which is TLo = (1-e)*THi. After this this step I am drawing a blank on what to do next. I know that it gives you the work done by the piston and the power of the engine, but I don't know what to do next.
 
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Do you know anything about the carnot cycle besides the efficiency equation?
 
Hmm - is there a solution?
The work per carnot cycle is presumably 5N x 0.0025m = 0.0125J.
There are an infinite number of combinations of T2 and Q1 that can provide this work (T2 = low temp, Q1 = high heat) while still satisfying carnot efficiency.
The power of 5W just indicates how many carnot cycles have to be performed per second.
Comments/critiques welcome!
 
Rude man/JoeSmith1013, I feel your pain on this one. To let you know where I'm at on this one, I even had to search to find out what a carnot engine was. Maybe the efficiency equation has nothing to do with it. Maybe it has to do with the fact that the gas temperature has to be reduced enough so that when it is warmed up, the gas expansion is sufficient to produce the 5N and 0.25cm. It is possible for a situation where the temperature difference is so small that the gas expansion cannot even produce the 5 N, 0.25 cm movement. So it seems to me that there has to be some minimum temperature delta to accomplish that. Just my $0.02.
 
TomHart said:
Rude man/JoeSmith1013, I feel your pain on this one. To let you know where I'm at on this one, I even had to search to find out what a carnot engine was. Maybe the efficiency equation has nothing to do with it. Maybe it has to do with the fact that the gas temperature has to be reduced enough so that when it is warmed up, the gas expansion is sufficient to produce the 5N and 0.25cm. It is possible for a situation where the temperature difference is so small that the gas expansion cannot even produce the 5 N, 0.25 cm movement. So it seems to me that there has to be some minimum temperature delta to accomplish that. Just my $0.02.
There is always some minimum temperature delta required in any engine.
I did notice that the "high" temperature is pretty da**ed low (almost to frozen Nitrogen) which seems odd but I guess there it is.
Th efficiency of a carnot engine is determined by the fact that the entropy loss of the "high" reservoir = entropy gained by the low (lower!) reservoir. The possible combinations of Q1 and T2 I referred to previously is based on this fact.
 
I think there is context missing.
Its pretty specific about how the carnot cycles is being implimented so there may be an example in course notes that can help.
 

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