Carnot engines and refrigerators

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The discussion revolves around the conceptual understanding of Carnot engines and refrigerators, specifically focusing on the mechanics of refrigeration, including the role of the compressor in increasing gas temperature and the relationship between pressure and boiling point.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature in gases, referencing the ideal gas law. Questions are raised about how compression affects temperature and the conditions under which a gas condenses into a liquid.

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Some participants have offered insights into the energy dynamics during gas compression and the implications for temperature changes. Others are questioning the definitions and relationships involved in boiling points and vapor pressure, indicating a productive exploration of these concepts.

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There is a focus on understanding the principles of thermodynamics without specific numerical problems, and participants are encouraged to clarify their assumptions about gas behavior under varying conditions.

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Homework Statement


I am not necessarily having a problem with a particular homework problem. It is more of a conceptual issue. I have been reading about Carnot engines and refrigerators. In trying to understand the topic better, I did a little more digging and looked up how a refrigerator actually works. There is one aspect that I am not really understanding, and that is how does the compressor of a refrigerator in compressing the gas form of the refrigerant cause the temperature of the compressed gas to increase? Also, how does pressurizing the gas allow it to condense into a liquid as it starts releasing heat into the environment outside the refrigerator even though the temperature it ends up at after releasing heat is still way above its boiling point?

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My best guess is that the compressor does work on the refrigerant by decreasing the volume that the gas occupies and pressurizing it, which adds to the internal energy of the refrigerant and this causes the temperature to increase. As for my second question, my guess is that since the molecules have been forced into this small volume and heat is being released, the molecules being compacted into this tight space start to bond with each other forming a liquid.
 
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This concept is derived from the ideal gas law stating that the the pressure times volume equals number of atoms time the gas constant times temperature (PV=nRT). Dividing by T on both sides gives PV/T=nR which is a constant for a closed system such as a refrigerator. Therefore the quantity of PV/T is equal to that of state, (PV/T)1=(PV/T)2 (sorry i don't can't figure out how to post subscripts, the 1 and 2 are subscripts). So if you raise the pressure from an initial state, the volume must go down, or the temperature must go up, or both (other aspects of the problem will specify exactly).
As for the condensation, the state of matter depends on pressure and temperature. A higher pressure means a higher boiling point and. The refrigerator compresses the gas to a pressure where the temperature is below the boiling point.
 


emperrotta said:

Homework Statement


I am not necessarily having a problem with a particular homework problem. It is more of a conceptual issue. I have been reading about Carnot engines and refrigerators. In trying to understand the topic better, I did a little more digging and looked up how a refrigerator actually works. There is one aspect that I am not really understanding, and that is how does the compressor of a refrigerator in compressing the gas form of the refrigerant cause the temperature of the compressed gas to increase?
This is a good question.

PV=nRT does not explain why T should increase if V decreases while P increases. The increase in temperature has to do with the fact that compression adds energy to the gas.

T is a measure of the average energy of the gas molecules. During adiabatic compression (no heat flows into or out of gas so Q = 0), the only increase in energy of the gas is due to the work done on the gas. Applying the first law (conservation of energy), \Delta Q = \Delta U + W it is apparent that \Delta U = -W. Since work done by the gas, W, is negative, this means that the internal energy \Delta U must increase. This means the molecular speed of the gas molecules increases, which is just a measure of temperature.

Physically, one can see how the movement of the container walls inward adds kinetic energy to molecules that collide with that wall. That means T increases. If walls are expanding, the molecules will rebound with less energy, so as volume increases T will decrease. (I am referring to adiabatic processes where Q = 0).

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How does increasing the pressure of a gas increase the boiling point of the gas?
 


emperrotta said:
How does increasing the pressure of a gas increase the boiling point of the gas?
I think you mean how does an increase of the external atmospheric pressure increase the boiling point of a liquid that it is in contact with?

What is the definition of "boiling point"? (Think in terms of the relationship between vapour pressure of the liquid and external pressure). What is the vapour pressure determined by (think in terms of translational kinetic energy of the molecules in the liquid)? If you increase the external pressure, what do you have to do to the vapour pressure in order to achieve boiling? (What do you have to do to the liquid to increase that vapour pressure)?

AM
 

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