Castiglianos Theorem: Elastic Body Displacements & Swing Analysis

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The discussion revolves around the application of Castigliano's theorem to determine the displacements of a swing modeled as an elastic body. Participants are tasked with deriving expressions for vertical and horizontal displacements under a downward load, while also clarifying the theorem's implications for translational and rotational displacements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests clarification on the statement of Castigliano's theorem and its application to the problem involving a swing.
  • Another participant suggests using the moment equation as a function of the angle the radius makes with the vertical to aid in the solution.
  • A participant presents their calculations for the moment and attempts to derive the deflection using the integral formula from Castigliano's theorem, expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their approach.
  • Concerns are raised about the inclusion of a fictitious force in the calculations, with a suggestion that it should be equal to the applied load unless specified otherwise.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of the fictitious force in the context of the problem. There is no consensus on the correctness of the derived deflection or the treatment of the fictitious force, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of the fictitious force in relation to the applied load, and there are unresolved mathematical steps in the derivation of the deflection expression.

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Homework Statement


a) State Castiglianos theorem for translational and rotational displacements of an elastic body, stating precisely the meanings of the terms.

b) A swing in a childrens play area is constrcuted from a steel tube bent into a quarter circle of radius R. One end is rigidly fixed to the ground with the tangent to the circle vertical, and the swing attached to the other end. Assuming that the beam has a section constant EI, derive experssions for the vertical and horizontal displacements of the swing when a downwards load P is applied to it.


Homework Equations


dV=dU/dL=d(int(M^2/(2*E*I)*r*dTheta,Pi->0)/dP


The Attempt at a Solution



sorry but I am completely baffled
 
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You need to show your work, may i recommend to use your moment equation in function of the angle the radius makes with the vertical.
 
okay, i think my answer is wrong but this is what I've got.
the moment is M(theta) is PRCos(theta) + F(R-RSin(theta)) where f is ficticious i know so do i disregard that.

Therefore M^2(theta) = R^2(P^2Cos^2(theta) + F^2 - F^2Sin^2(Theta).

Therefore i use that in the formula d(int(M^2/(2*E*I)*r*dTheta,Pi->0)/dP
I use the trig identities for Cos^2(theta) and Sin^2(theta) and integrate. If i ignore the ficticous force F the value of the integral is P^2(Pi/2)

This gives me a deflection of (P^2*Pi*R^3)/(4*E*I)
Is this correct
Would appreciate it a lot, Thanks
 
umarfarooq said:
okay, i think my answer is wrong but this is what I've got.
the moment is M(theta) is PRCos(theta) + F(R-RSin(theta)) where f is ficticious i know so do i disregard that.

Therefore M^2(theta) = R^2(P^2Cos^2(theta) + F^2 - F^2Sin^2(Theta).

Therefore i use that in the formula d(int(M^2/(2*E*I)*r*dTheta,Pi->0)/dP
I use the trig identities for Cos^2(theta) and Sin^2(theta) and integrate. If i ignore the ficticous force F the value of the integral is P^2(Pi/2)

This gives me a deflection of (P^2*Pi*R^3)/(4*E*I)
Is this correct
Would appreciate it a lot, Thanks

You need to read castigliano's theorem again, in this case the fictitious force is equal to the applied load, unless the applied load is not at the free end, if that's the case you must specify where it is, so we can actually help out!
 
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