Catching Football (Projectile Motion)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves projectile motion in the context of a football game, where a quarterback throws a ball to a receiver while both are in motion. The scenario includes parameters such as the height of the throw, the angle of release, and the velocities of both the quarterback and the receiver.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the reference frame of the ball's initial velocity, questioning whether it is relative to the quarterback or the stadium. There are suggestions to clarify this with the teacher or to consider both cases.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the original poster's equations and numerical answers, indicating a productive exchange of ideas. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of different assumptions regarding the reference frame for the ball's velocity.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about the initial conditions, particularly regarding the velocities of the quarterback and the receiver, which may affect the calculations. The discussion reflects a need for clarification on these assumptions.

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Homework Statement



In a football game, a quarterback passed a ball to a receiver while running at 1.5 m/s
forward. The ball was released at a height of 2.5 meters with an angle of 45 degrees and
an initial velocity of 20 m/s. The receiver ran from behind to catch the ball at a height of
2 m.

a) Find the range or distance traveled by the ball.

b) Find the initial distance between the receiver and the quarterback, if the
receiver ran at constant velocity of 7 m/s to catch the ball. Assume he
started running at the same time as the ball was thrown.

c) Find the final velocity of the ball and its direction.

Homework Equations



y=yo+voy*t + 1/2*a*t^(2)
x=xo+vox*t

Vb/e=Vb/q + Vq/e
Vb/e= velocity of ball relative to the earth
Vb/q= velocity of ball relative to quarterback
Vb/e= velocity of quarterback relative to earth

The Attempt at a Solution



Vb/e-x= Vb/q-x + Vq/e-x
Vb/e-x= 20cos(45) + 1.5= 15.64m/s

Vb/e-y= Vb/q-y + Vq/e-y
Vb/e-y = 20sn(45) + 0= 14.14m/s

y=yo+voy*t + 1/2*a*t^(2)
2=2.5 + 14.14*t - 4.905*t^(2)
(quadratic formula)
t= 3.20

A) x= xo + vox*t
x= 15.64*(3.2015)= 50.07m

B) x= xo + vox*t
50.07=xo +7*(3.2015)
Xo = 27.6675m

C) Vy= Voy*t +a*t
Vy= 14.12 - 9.81(3.2015) = -17.28m/s

Vb/e= 23.29m/s

θ= -47.8 South of East

Is my work correct? May be a little long but thanks for checking!
 
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It is not made clear whether the initial velocity of the ball was in the qb's reference frame or that of the stadium ...
 
rude man said:
It is not made clear whether the initial velocity of the ball was in the qb's reference frame or that of the stadium ...

So what do we do?
 
Toranc3 said:
So what do we do?

Ask the teacher what he meant. If it's a textbook question you can assume either case or work it both ways. Or ask your teacher what to assume.

EDIT:
I see you have already gotten the right equations. You've assumed the ball's initial v_x = 20cos(45) + 1.5 and I think this is the best assumption.

Your work is excellent! I got all the same equations and numerical answers I checked (I did not check all your math, just some of it).
 
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rude man said:
Ask the teacher what he meant. If it's a textbook question you can assume either case or work it both ways. Or ask your teacher what to assume.

EDIT:
I see you have already gotten the right equations. You've assumed the ball's initial v_x = 20cos(45) + 1.5 and I think this is the best assumption.

Your work is excellent! I got all the same equations and numerical answers I checked (I did not check all your math, just some of it).

Ok I will. I had a quick question though, if the ball's velocity was with respect to the Earth would you just ignore the quarterback moving at 7m/s?
 
Toranc3 said:
Ok I will. I had a quick question though, if the ball's velocity was with respect to the Earth would you just ignore the quarterback moving at 7m/s?

Yes, which is why the fact that they gave you his speed suggested that they meant that speed to be added to his x throwing velocity.

BTW I think his speed was 1.5 m/s. The fullback (or whoever) was running at 7.

Good work!
 
rude man said:
Yes, which is why the fact that they gave you his speed suggested that they meant that speed to be added to his x throwing velocity.

BTW I think his speed was 1.5 m/s. The fullback (or whoever) was running at 7.

Good work!

Thank you!
 

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