Cathode ray tube, Voltage needed to move the beam impact spot

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a cathode ray tube, specifically focusing on the voltage required to deflect an electron beam across a screen. The original poster presents calculations related to the velocity of electrons and the energy involved in their deflection.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the necessary voltage for deflection by considering the angle of deflection and the velocities involved. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the width of the screen and the corresponding deflection needed. Others suggest that a detailed sketch may help clarify the scenario and the potential difference available for the electrons.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the geometry of the deflection and the calculations of velocities. There is no explicit consensus yet, as various approaches and adjustments to the original calculations are being discussed.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the geometry of the deflection and the relationship between the screen width and the required deflection. The original poster's calculations are influenced by the need to consider the vector nature of velocity and the potential energy involved.

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Homework Statement


Question: A cathode ray tube in a TV has an electron gun operating at 10 kV.

a: What is the velocity (in m.s-1) at which the electrons are emitted? Answer:5.9x107

b: How many volts are needed between the deflector plates to move the beam impact spot across a 70 cm screen if the screen is 120 cm from the deflector?

Homework Equations


Tan(θ)=vE/vI
1/2mv2
QE=qV

The Attempt at a Solution


First attempt:
So first I worked out the angle the beam has to move which was 30.3 degrees. Then I used the equation Tan(angle) = velocity in the direction of the field/ initial velocity. Which was Tan(30.3) X 5.9x107 = 3.4x107

Then I used 1/2 x 9.1x10-31 x (3.4x107 )2 to get 5.3x10-16 <I think I'm going wrong here. When I read through the lecture slides things become limited.

then PE = qV, so PE/q = V, so 5.3x10-16 / 1.6x10-19 = 3287

Then I was given this advice:
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The problem is that velocity is a vector quantity, while energy is not.

So it seems that you appropriately worked out the velocity in the direction of the field. (I'll call this ve, and the initial velocity vi)

What you should do then is find the total velocity vtot=sqrt( ve2 + vi 2 ). You then use this number to find the total KE of the electron. Subtract the initial KE (find with vi) and this gives you the energy (PE) which must be added by the electric field."
So I tried this, sqrt(5.9x1072+3.4x1072) = 6.81x107

So Total KE = 0.5x9.1x10-31x6.81x1072 =2.11x10-15
Initial KE = 0.5x9.1x10-31x5,9x1072 = 1.583855x10^-15

2.11x10-15 - 1.583855x10-15 = 5.26145x10-16

Then QE=qV, so QE/q = V

So 5.26145x10-16/1.6x10-19 = 3288.40625 But this is also wrong.
 
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If the screen is 70 cm wide, doesn't the defection have to be only half of that in one direction, half in the other direction, in order to cover the full width of the screen?
 
gneill said:
If the screen is 70 cm wide, doesn't the defection have to be only half of that in one direction, half in the other direction, in order to cover the full width of the screen?
So how should I adjust my answer ? I went from 70cm to 35cm (if that's what you meant?) which changed the angle from 30.3ο to 16.3ο but the answer is still wrong.
 
Opo said:
So how should I adjust my answer ? I went from 70cm to 35cm (if that's what you meant?) which changed the angle from 30.3ο to 16.3ο but the answer is still wrong.
What transverse velocity did you find for this deflection angle? (That's the velocity component due to the deflection).

I think you need to make a detailed sketch of the scenario. How much of the available potential difference can the electron "fall though" between the deflection plates if it enters the plates midway between them?
 

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