Field strength to deflect electron in a cathode-ray tube

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The problem involves an electron in a cathode-ray tube that is accelerated through a potential difference and then passes through a region of uniform magnetic field. The objective is to determine the field strength required to deflect the electron by a specified angle.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the magnetic force and the electron's velocity, questioning the angle used in calculations. There is exploration of centripetal acceleration and its relation to the magnetic field strength. Some participants express confusion about the radius of the electron's circular motion and how it relates to the magnetic field.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the nature of the forces acting on the electron and the geometry of its motion. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the relationship between the radius of the circular path and the magnetic field, with some guidance provided on visualizing the motion and considering the geometry involved.

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There are indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the assumptions of uniform circular motion and the application of relevant equations. Participants are encouraged to reconsider their approach based on the physical setup and the geometry of the situation.

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Homework Statement



An electron in a cathode-ray tube is accelerated through a potential difference of 10 kV, then passes through the d = 2.4-cm-wide region of uniform magnetic field in the figure(Figure 1) .

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What field strength will deflect the electron by θ = 13 degrees?

Homework Equations


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Δx=vt+0.5aΔt2
KE=0.5mv2
U=qΔV
F=qvBsin(θ)
F=ma
B=ma/qvsin(θ)
Ki+Ui=Kf+Uf

The Attempt at a Solution


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Since Ki=0, then Kf=-ΔU
Since U=qΔV, then Kf=-qΔV
Since Kf=0.5mv2, then 0.5mv2=-qΔV

Using 0.5mv2=-qΔV, and inputing values 0.5(9.11×10-31)v2)=-(-1.60×10-19)(10,000)

So, v after acceleration by ΔV is 5.931×107 m/s.

Δx=viΔt+0.5axΔt2
Since ax=0, because the force should be acting to change only the ay
t=4.047×10-10 s
so, Δy=viΔt+0.5ayΔt2

and since Δy=0.024tan(13)=5.54×10-3

then, ay=6.765×1016

Since: F=qvBsin(θ) and F=ma, then
B=ma/qvsin(θ), and θ=90, (I think?)
so
B=(9.11×10-31)(6.756×1016)/(1.60×10-19)(5.931×107)=6.49×10-3 T

This answer is incorrect. Could someone show me where I went wrong? Thanks!
 
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The magnetic force is perpendicular to the velocity. In F = q v B sinθ, θ = π/2. The angle that you seeking has to do with the circular arc of the electron's trajectory.
 
kuruman said:
The magnetic force is perpendicular to the velocity. In F = q v B sinθ, θ = π/2. The angle that you seeking has to do with the circular arc of the electron's trajectory.

Right. I'm pretty sure I used π/2=90 degrees in my calculations. I'm trying to find the field strength needed to deflect the electron. Any idea where I went wrong in my calculations?
 
David23454 said:
Since ax=0, because the force should be acting to change only the ay
This is where you went wrong. What I am trying to say is that the electron undergoes uniform circular motion in he region of magnetic field. The acceleration is centripetal.
 
Oh, I think I see. So, the acceleration I should use to input into the equation B=ma/qv should be:

ac=V2/r

How would I calculate the "r" in the equation for centripetal acceleration?
 
The "r" depends on the magnetic field. Can you find an expression for it in terms of the magnetic field?
 
Ye
kuruman said:
The "r" depends on the magnetic field. Can you find an expression for it in terms of the magnetic field?
Yes, r=mv/qB, but since the magnetic field is what I'm trying to find, I'm not sure what I can do with it.
 
Remember that the electron is undergoing uniform circular motion. Can you write expressions for the x and y components of its position as a function of time? Note that at t = 0, the electron is at position {0, mv/qB} and moving with velocity {v, 0}.
 
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Wait, I think I might be getting it, so the equation would look like :

since ac=v2/(mv/qB) then
B=m((v2)/(mv/qB))/qv
 
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David23454 said:
Wait, I think I might be getting it, so the equation would look like :

since ac=v2/(mv/qB) then
B=m((v2)/(mv/qB))/qv
You are going around in a circle. This gives you B = B if you simplify.
 
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ok
 
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Please consider post #8.
 
  • #13
x(t)=vx+0.5axt2 and y(t)=vyt+0.5ayt2

I know that I have to incorporate something relating to the fact that at t=0 where position is (0, mv/qB) and velocity is (v,0), but I'm not sure how to proceed.
 
  • #14
Please forget the equations that you quoted. They are not pertinent to uniform circular motion. In uniform circular motion the object is going around a circle at constant speed. This would be the case here if the magnetic field extended over a larger region. Instead the particle exits the field, nevertheless while it's still in the field region, it moves at constant speed.
Try this approach. Draw a picture of the particle at the exit point and a vector from the center of the circle (remember it has radius mv/qB). The x-component of the position vector must be what?
 
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The x-component of the position should be the length of box containing the magnetic field (xf-xi)=0.024 m, and the y-component of the position should be y=(0.024)tan(13).
 
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Using geometry, I think the radius of the should be (Δx2+Δy2)/2Δy, which should be 0.05476 m. Then I should be able to put it in the formula B=mv/rq. Does this sound correct?
 
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David23454 said:
Using geometry, I think the radius of the should be (Δx2+Δy2)/2Δy, which should be 0.05476 m. Then I should be able to put it in the formula B=mv/rq. Does this sound correct?
No.
Draw a diagram showing the arc of travel and the centre of the arc, joining the centre to the ends of the arc with two radii to form a sector.
What is the angle in the sector, i.e. between the radii?
In terms of that angle and the radius, what is the distance traveled along the x axis?
 

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