Center of mass for rigid body and point particle

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the center of mass for a system comprising a uniform beam and a point particle. The beam, with length L and mass M, has its center of mass located at -L/2 in the vertical direction. When a point particle of mass m attaches itself to the beam at (0, -L, 0), the new center of mass for the combined system is determined using the formula R = (-M(L/2) - mL) / (M + m). This calculation confirms that as the mass of the particle becomes negligible compared to the beam, the center of mass approaches -L/2.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of center of mass concepts for rigid bodies and point particles
  • Familiarity with vector notation and calculations in physics
  • Knowledge of uniform density and its implications for mass distribution
  • Ability to apply mathematical integration for continuous mass distributions
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the principles of center of mass for composite systems in physics
  • Learn about the subdivision principle and its applications in mechanics
  • Explore the implications of mass ratios in center of mass calculations
  • Investigate the effects of varying densities on center of mass for different shapes
USEFUL FOR

Students studying physics, particularly those focusing on mechanics, as well as educators seeking to clarify concepts related to center of mass in rigid body dynamics.

Noorac
Messages
13
Reaction score
0
Hi, this is a problem on center mass.

Homework Statement


A beam hangs straight down from a point O(O is placed at x=0 and y = 0, aka origo). The beam is attached to the point O. Beam has length L and mass M. The density of the beam is uniform, so the centermass of the beam is -\frac{L}{2}\boldsymbol{\hat{\jmath}}. A point particle with mass m is shot into the beam at (0,-L,0) and latches itself onto the beam in (0,-L,0) so it becomes a part of the beam at that point.

What is the center of mass for the system consisting of the beam and the particle?
(I first thought the center of mass was still at -\frac{L}{2}, but the task does not state anywhere that m<< M).

Homework Equations



--

The Attempt at a Solution



I was thinking of using center of mass for a particle system, but since one of the "particles" is a beam, I assume I cannot use \vec{R} = \frac{1}{M}\Sigma m_i \vec{r}_i. And since I don't know the densitydifference for the point particle nor the beam, I don't think I can use \vec{R} = \frac{1}{M} \int \int \int \vec{r} \rho dV

Not sure how to approach finding the total center of mass, though maybe the answer is right there and I don't see it. Any ideas?

Edit; Is the subdivision principle applicable here?

So:

\vec{R} = \frac{-M\frac{L}{2} -mL}{M+m}\boldsymbol{\hat{\jmath}}
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
That looks good to me at least, and you do see that in the limit m<<M the stick goes back to L/2 CM.
 
Mindscrape said:
That looks good to me at least, and you do see that in the limit m<<M the stick goes back to L/2 CM.

Yeah, that's a good point! Thanks=)
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
335
Views
16K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
982
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K