Center of mass of a curved surface

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The problem involves calculating the center of mass of a surface defined by the function \( f(x,y) = \frac{1}{2a}(x^2+y^2) \) above a circle of radius \( a \). The context is within the subject area of calculus and geometric interpretation of surfaces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the surface as a three-dimensional object and explore its geometric properties, including whether it represents a cone or a paraboloid. There are attempts to express the surface in polar coordinates and to set up integrals for calculating the center of mass.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of different interpretations of the surface and its implications for calculating the center of mass. Some participants offer corrections and clarifications regarding the setup of integrals, indicating a productive exchange of ideas, though no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants question the assumptions made about the surface and the integration process, noting potential errors in the formulation of the function and the integration limits. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Let ##\Sigma## be surface given as ##f(x,y)=\frac{1}{2a}(x^2+y^2)## above circle ##K((0,0),a)## for ##a>0##. Calculate the center of mass.


Homework Equations



If you are not familiar with ##K((0,0),a)## , that is a circle in point ##(0,0)## with radius a.

The Attempt at a Solution



I would attempt to get a solution if I would be able to imagine ##\Sigma##. If I understand correctly, ##f(x,y)## is also a circle with radius ##\sqrt{2a}## ? or...?

My question here is...: What does the fact, that the ##f(x,y)## is above a circle tell me? O.o
 
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I think the surface is meant as 3-dimensional object, so you can write $$z=f(x,y)=\frac{1}{2a}(x^2+y^2)$$ That's a [strike]cone[/strike] paraboloid. The center of mass is trivial for the x- and y-coordinate, and the z-coordinate is interesting.

Edit: fixed, thanks.
 
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mfb said:
I think the surface is meant as 3-dimensional object, so you can write $$z=f(x,y)=\frac{1}{2a}(x^2+y^2)$$ That's a cone. The center of mass is trivial for the x- and y-coordinate, and the z-coordinate is interesting.

Actually, it's a paraboloid.
 
Ok, if the surface is 3-dimensional than i can write ##x=rcos\varphi ## and ##y=rsin\varphi ## for ##r\in \left [ 0,a \right ]## and ##\varphi \in \left [ 0,2\pi \right ]##

Therefore ##f(r,\varphi )=\frac{1}{2r}r^2=\frac{r}{2}##

So ##z=\frac{\int_{0}^{2\pi }\int_{0}^{a}\frac{r^2}{4}drd\varphi }{\int_{0}^{2\pi }\int_{0}^{a}\frac{r}{2}drd\varphi }=\frac{a}{3}##

Or is this not so easy? :D
 
Why did you replace a by r in the denominator for f?
And I think there are factors of r missing in the integration (r dr dφ).
 
Blah, I don't know. I shouldn't have done that!

##x=rcos\varphi ## and ##y=rsin\varphi ## for ##r\in \left [ 0,a \right ]## and ##\varphi \in \left [ 0,2\pi \right ]##

Therefore ##f(r,\varphi )=\frac{1}{2a}r^2##

So ##z=\frac{\int_{0}^{2\pi }\int_{0}^{a}\frac{r^4}{4a^2}drd\varphi }{\int_{0}^{2\pi }\int_{0}^{a}\frac{r^2}{2a}drd\varphi }=\frac{3}{10}a##
 

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