Centirpetal And Centrifugal Forces

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The discussion centers on the distinction between centripetal and centrifugal forces, emphasizing that every known force can act as a centripetal force with a corresponding centrifugal reaction. Participants argue for more precise terminology, suggesting terms like gravipetal-gravifugal and cohesipetal-cohesifugal to clarify the nature of these forces. The conversation highlights the confusion surrounding the term "centrifugal force," particularly in the context of astronauts in orbit, where gravitational force acts as a centripetal force while the perceived levitation is attributed to a gravifugal force. The discussion concludes that using specific terms enhances clarity and understanding of these concepts.

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Centripetal and centrifugal forces

What do you think about the following division, i.e. distinction between centripetal and centrifugal forces?

gravipetal-gravifugal
electropetal-electrofugal
magnetopetal-magnetofugal
nucleopetal-nucleofugal
cohesipetal-cohesifugal

Every known force can function as a centripetal force, and has inevitable reaction in centrifugal direction. The terms CENTRIFUGAL AND CENTRIPETAL are only denominations of direction of actioning - toward center or away of it.

E.G. Astronauts which are orbiting Earth are levitating due to gravifugal force. In a case of levitation of astronauts is erroneus to say: they are levitating due to "centrifugal force" because that term is to general, or to large.

For more,CLEARER and EASIER to understand, please see at the site:

http://www.geocities.com/agravity/ANTIGRAVITY.htm
THERE ARE ALSO THE DATA ON GRAVIFUGAL FLYING CRAFT
Thank you!
 
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Good idea, althought i don't really agree with it.
Scientists try their best to make science 'simpler', with fewer terms, etc ...
Now, in the case of an astraunot orbitting round earth, the gravitational force on the astraunot works as a centripetal force (for a person watching from an inertial frame of refference), so, the force that the astraunot feels as levitating force is actually a centrifgual force (remember he is not in an inertial frame of refference), so i don't see where the problem comes up.
You said :
a case of levitation of astronauts is erroneus to say: they are levitating due to "centrifugal force" because that term is to general, or to large.
Can you explain this more, why is it erroneous to say "They are lifted due to centrifugal force, that is due to a centripetal force which is the gravitational force" ?
 
"""a case of levitation of astronauts is erroneus to say: they are levitating due to "centrifugal force" because that term is to general, or to large."""

It is more correct and more precize and clearer to say "gravifugal force", because it is the reaction to the gravipetal force action.

If we rotate the little stone on the string, we also deal with centrifugal and centripetal force (speaking generaly), but it is much better to say: cohesipetal and cohesifugal or solidopetal and solidofugal force.

There are some esential differences between the two pair of force

Gravipetal - gravifugal
and
Cohesipetal - cohesifugal

Equation for the first pair - grav.:
GMm/R2 - mv2/R
Equation for the second pair - cohesi.:
mv2/r - mv2/r

Behaviour of the rotating mass and forces is also quite different.
Please see details at:
http://www.geocities.com/agravity/ANTIGRAVITY.htm
THERE ARE ALSO SOME INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT GRAVIFUGAL FLYING CRAFT
Thank you
 
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No... you still misunderstand the idea of centripetal effects. What happens is best seen as falling but missing the ground. The object in orbit is continuously falling under the unbalanced force of attraction, but constantly missing the ground.

Have you done calculus?
 
Dear sir,
your opinion is not incorrect, but it is only simplicication for schoool-children.
 
That is why I asked if you know calculus. I can give you the full complex version if you desire.

And you didn't say why the model isn't correct.
 
OK, OK
You are right
 
But there is no centrifugal force...
 
I do not understand what are you talking about, but you are right.
 
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