Central potential in quantum mechanics

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving central potentials, specifically examining the conditions under which physically acceptable solutions exist for a potential of the form V(r) = r^p(b_0 + b_1r + ...). The focus is on the case where p = -2 and b_0 < 0, exploring the implications for the radial component of the wave function and the effective potential.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the effective potential and its lowest order terms in the radial Schrödinger equation. The original poster attempts to identify constraints that would exclude non-physical solutions, particularly in the context of an attractive potential. Other participants raise questions about determining when an equation has real solutions.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to derive conditions for acceptable solutions based on the effective potential. Some participants are exploring the implications of their findings, while others are seeking clarification on specific aspects of the problem. There is no explicit consensus, but various lines of reasoning are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of applying constraints when b_0 < 0, as traditional methods for ensuring physical solutions may not be applicable in this scenario. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed without a clear constraint on b_0.

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Hi all,
I'm new to his forum. I'm having trouble with the following question on central potentials. It's an exercise from (Bransden and Joachain, Introduction to quantum mechanics).

Homework Statement


Suppose V(r) is a central potential, expand around r=0 as V(r)=r^p(b_0+b_1r+\ldots). When p=-2 and b_0&lt;0[\tex], show that physically acceptable solutions exist only when b_0&amp;gt;-\frac{\hbar}{8\mu}<br /> <br /> <br /> <h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> R(r) is the radial component of the wave function<br /> u(r)=r^{-1}R(r)=r^s\sum{c_kr^k} is a solution of<br /> -\frac{\hbar^2}{2\mu}\frac{d^2u(r)}{dr^2}+V_{eff}u(r)=Eu(r)<br /> <br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> The effective potential is r^{-2}(b_0+\frac{l(l+2)\hbar^2}{2\mu}+b_1r+\ldots)<br /> <br /> When p&gt;-2, the case that is discussed in the textbook, they compare the lowest order terms in the radial Schroedinger equation. For p=-2, I get:<br /> <br /> The lowest order term of \frac{d^2u}{dr^2}=s(s-1)r^{s-2}\sum{c_kr^k}<br /> The lowest order term of V_{eff}(r)u(r)=(b_0+\frac{l(l+2)\hbar^2}{2\mu})r^{s-2}\sum{c_kr^k}<br /> <br /> The difference is apparently that b_0 appears in the lowest order terms.<br /> <br /> Now I need some constraint that excludes non-physical solutions. For p&gt;-2, that is u(0)=0. But for b_0&amp;lt;0 that can&#039;t be used. Because the potential is attracting, I think the probability of finding a particle at the origin should be positive. The problem is I can&#039;t think of any constraint that should be imposed, that could limit the allowed values of b_0.<br /> <br /> Any hints would be greatly appreciated.
 
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I solved this myself. It was so easy after all!
 
Dear Bavon
Would u please help me to solve this problem too?
thanks
I am looking forward for ur reply. It is an emergency situation!
 
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If I decyphered my notes from almost 3 years ago correctly, I constructed an equation in s, and then expressed that it should have real solutions.
 
How can I undrestand that an equation have real solutions?
thanks
 

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