Centripetal accel - airplane flying in a horizontal circle

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The discussion focuses on calculating the minimum radius of a circular path for an airplane flying at a speed of 116 m/s, ensuring that the centripetal acceleration does not exceed 6g (where g is 9.81 m/s²). The initial calculation for the radius was incorrectly derived as 2242.7 meters. The correct approach involves recognizing that the centripetal acceleration is 6 times the gravitational acceleration, leading to the formula v²/R = 6g. Additionally, the discussion highlights the need for the pilot to tilt the airplane towards the center of the circular path, with the angle of tilt calculated using tan(θ) = v²/(Rg).

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centripetal accel -- airplane flying in a horizontal circle...

Homework Statement



An airplane is flying in a horizontal circle at a speed of 116 m/s. The 77.0 kg pilot does not want his centripetal acceleration to exceed 6.00 times free-fall acceleration.

(a) What is the minimum radius of the circular path? (in meters)

(b) At this radius, what is the net force that maintains circular motion exerted on the pilot by the seat belts, the friction between him and the seat, and so forth?


Homework Equations



i'm more concentrated on part A.
this is what i have so far:

F=ma=m(v^2/R)=mG

v=116m/s
G=6

so then v^2/R=6, 116^2/R=6

so then
R=2242.7

it says my answer is incorrect.
i don't see my mistake though.


and for part B, would it be 0?

PART A: SOLVED. but i still need help with part B.
Fnet=ma, but i don't think that one works in this case...
 
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so then v^2/R=6, 116^2/R=6
but wait, the problem states "6.00 times free-fall acceleration", which means an acceleration of 6g or 6 * 9.81 m/s2, not simply 6.
 
Astronuc said:
but wait, the problem states "6.00 times free-fall acceleration", which means an acceleration of 6g or 6 * 9.81 m/s2, not simply 6.

ahh yes! WOW i must be blind. thanks!

now for part B...
 
Does it not seem a tad unlikely that a pilot doing a turn of 2.247 km radius (thats more than 1.2 miles!) would be pulling a body-bending 6g ?
Is the 9.81m/s/s value of g included in the given information you have to solve this?
(OK - I see he got there, but some answers do make for great mental pictures of extreme stuff :smile: )
 
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GTrax said:
Does it not seem a tad unlikely that a pilot doing a turn of 2.247 km radius (thats more than 1.2 miles!) would be pulling a body-bending 6g ?
Is the 9.81m/s/s value of g included in the given information you have to solve this?
(OK - I see he got there, but some answers do make for great mental pictures of extreme stuff :smile: )

for g, instead of 9.8 we can just use 10.

but anyways i do see what you mean :)
 
anyone?? :'[
 
Pilot cannot fly in the horizontal circle unless he tilts the plane toward the center. The angle of tilt can be found by tan(theta) = v^2/Rg. Then you can find the rest of the values.
 
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rl.bhat said:
Pilot cannot fly in the horizontal circle unless he tilts the plane toward the center. The angle of tilt can be found by tan(theta) = v^2/Rg. Then you can find the rest of the values.

he didnt give us any angles
 
In part a you have found the velocity by using 6g = v^2/R.
The angle of tilt can be found by tan(theta) = v^2/Rg.
Hence v^2/R = g*tan(theta). Substitute in the first equation, we get 6g = g*tan(theta)
or tan(theta) =6 or theta = tan^-1(6) = 80.5 degree.
When the pilot is flying with this tilt, the normal component of his weight(R) = mgcos(theta) = 77*10*cos(80.5) N. Centripetal force (F)= 6g = 60N. mu = F/R
 

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