Change in Electric Potential Across R1 in Figure B

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves analyzing the change in electric potential across a resistor in a circuit when a switch is closed. The circuit includes resistors and ideal batteries, with specific values provided for resistance and voltage.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the effect of closing a switch on the electric potential across a resistor, questioning how the addition of another resistor alters the situation. There are attempts to calculate equivalent resistance and voltage drops in different configurations of the circuit.

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Some participants have provided calculations regarding the change in voltage across the resistor with the switch in different positions. There is acknowledgment of the need for clarity in terminology regarding voltage and potential difference. Agreement on certain results has been expressed, but the discussion remains open for further exploration.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement and the provided circuit diagrams, which may not be fully detailed in the discussion. There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of circuit changes without definitive conclusions drawn.

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[SOLVED] Change in Electric Potential

Homework Statement


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The resistances in the figures A and B are all 7.0 ohms, and the batteries are ideal 13 V batteries.

When switch S in figure b is closed, what is the change in the electric potential VR1 across resistor 1?


Homework Equations


I know that in figure A if S is closed the change in electric potential across R1 is 0. How does the addition of R3 in figure B change this fact?

Ohm's Law: V=iR


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not really sure where to begin. I thought the change in electric potential in figure B would be 0 as well. Anybody care to enlighten me?
 
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daimoku said:
I know that in figure A if S is closed the change in electric potential across R1 is 0. How does the addition of R3 in figure B change this fact?

What is the equivalent resistance of the network in figure (b) with the switch open, and then with it closed? In figure (a), the current will change when the switch is thrown, but the parallel pair are the only resistors the current passes through and the only resistors the voltage drops across. So the voltage across R1 remains 13 V.

The upstream resistor R3, however, will have a different voltage drop before and after the switch is thrown, so R1 and R2 will also.
 
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In figure b, the equivalent resistance is 14 ohms and 10.5 ohms with the switch opened and closed respectively.

So, the change in current across R1 with S open is 6.5V and with S closed it's 4.33V. Therefore, the change in potential difference is -2.17V. Does this sound right?
 
daimoku said:
So, the change in current across R1 with S open is 6.5V and with S closed it's 4.33V.

I think you mean the change in voltage across the resistor...

Therefore, the change in potential difference is -2.17V. Does this sound right?

Yes, I agree with these results.
 
Yeah, I did mean change in voltage! Thanks a lot for your help!
 

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