Changes in velocity with Direction change

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the change in velocity of a runner who alters direction while running at different speeds. The context is rooted in vector analysis, specifically focusing on how to calculate changes in velocity when direction changes occur.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the vector nature of velocity and the appropriate method to calculate the change in velocity. There is uncertainty about whether to find the hypotenuse or simply subtract the two velocity values. Questions arise regarding the inclusion of angle and direction in the final answer, as well as how to represent the vectors graphically.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on representing the velocities as vectors and calculating the change in velocity. There is an ongoing exploration of how to include direction and angle in the response, with no explicit consensus reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of vector representation and the implications of including directional information in their answers. There is a mention of needing to clarify axes definitions for accurate representation.

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Homework Statement



Tim is running cross country at 6.4m/s when he completes a wide angle turn and continues at 5.8m/s[w]. What is his change in velocity?


Homework Equations



Δv=v2-v1
a2+b2=c2

The Attempt at a Solution



i am not sure how i am supposed to find the change in velocity...
i could just find the hypotenuse but i think that is giving me the resulting acceleration and not the actual change. but I am quite sure its not as simple as just subtracting the two values either ??
 
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You have to remember that velocity is a vector: so we have [itex]v_1 = (0,6.4)[/itex] and [itex]v_2 = (5.8,0)[/itex] (where [itex](1,0)[/itex] points West and [itex](0,1)[/itex] points South), so as you correctly wrote: [itex]\Delta v = v_2 - v_1 = (5.8, -6.4)[/itex]. This is technically the change in his velocity, but the question may be just asking for its magnitude (which, as you note, is the hypotenuse).
 
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ok i will include both in my answer then. thank you. also should i be including the angle/direction? do you draw the s or w arrow first when drawing the diagram? like will the angle be between the hyp and 5.8 or the hyp and 6.4?
 
skatergirl said:
also should i be including the angle/direction?

If you include the information about what your axes are (i.e. South = (0,1), West = (1,0) ) then when you write the components of [itex]\Delta v[/itex] down you have represented it unambiguously. You shouldn't need to include it unless the question specifically asks you for it.

do you draw the s or w arrow first when drawing the diagram? like will the angle be between the hyp and 5.8 or the hyp and 6.4?

I'm not sure I understand the first question. In answer to the second, you would have to be specific (e.g. "the vector is 10° to the East of North", or "at a bearing of 010°" or some similar specification of angle - and note that was just an example, not the direction of [itex]\Delta v[/itex])
 

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