Changing medium - Standing Mechanical Waves

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of changing the medium of a standing mechanical wave on the particles' velocity. Participants explore the implications of altering the medium's mass density and how it relates to the wave's characteristics, including frequency and amplitude. The context includes theoretical considerations and interpretations of an exam question.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that changing the medium's mass will affect the particles' velocity of the standing wave, as indicated by the slope of the displacement-time graph.
  • Another participant argues that if the graph of y(t) remains unchanged, then the velocity cannot change, questioning the implications of changing the medium.
  • A participant suggests that if the tension remains constant and only the mass density changes, the frequency of the standing wave should change, implying that a heavier medium would result in a slower wave speed.
  • One participant emphasizes that while the teacher's view may hold under certain kinematic assumptions, the physics of the system suggests that changing the medium's mass density would also affect frequency and amplitude.
  • Another participant notes that changing the medium likely alters the linear density, which would impact the wave speed, and agrees that the question is poorly worded.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether changing the medium affects the particles' velocity. Some support the idea that it does, while others uphold the teacher's position that it does not, leading to an unresolved debate.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for assumptions regarding the complete system when interpreting the effects of changing the medium. The discussion reveals limitations in the exam question's clarity and scope.

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I wanted to ask the following question: If we change the medium of the wave (lighter or heavier) , how it will affect the particles velocity of the standing mechanical wave ?

In my exam , there was a function's graph of one of the particles (of the standing wave) described with the coordinates y(displacement) and t(time). I claimed that the slope of the function's graph represents the velocity of the particles has to be changed because the mass of the medium changed.

My teacher claims that my answer is incorrect and the velocity of the particles won't be changed because of the fact that the question is about a specific kind of wave : a standing mechanical wave, so the particles velocity won't be affected by the change of the medium's mass.

So who's right and why?
 
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If the graph of y(t) is unchanged then clearly y'(t) can't change either. So what do you mean by changing the medium in the problem? Are you replacing the string (or whatever) and then imposing the same initial condition of displacement? Do you have a standing wave which spans a string with two sections of different density?
 
"Are you replacing the string (or whatever) and then imposing the same initial condition of displacement?"
Yes. I was asked if due to the change in the medium's mass (heavier) , does that it mean the graph supposed to be changed?
 
If the tension is kept the same and only the mass density per length changes, then the frequency of the standing wave should change (as evidenced by the behavior of real strings). Thus to "sweep" the same range of displacement per cycle, a heavier string should be moving more slowly and y(t) is "stretched" in time. So I believe your intuition is correct.
 
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Would you please give the equations you used to conclude this conclusion?
 
If you just consider the kinematics of the standing wave, your teacher is right.

But if you consider the physics of the system, you can't change only the mass and expect everything else to stay the same. The frequency and/or the amplitude of the wave would change, so in general you would be right.

But if the exam question didn't describe the complete system, you can't consider the physics without making some assumptions. Personally I think it's a poor exam question.
 
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If the medium is a string, changing it likely changes the linear density to change, which would change the wave speed as the reciprocal of the square root of the factorial change in the linear density. I agree with AlephZero, it is a poorly worded question.

If it's not a string, it's then going to become a function of both elasticity and density.
 

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