Changing the base of a logarithm

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The discussion revolves around expressing the logarithm \(\log_4(12)\) in terms of another logarithm \(\log_8(6) = p\). Participants explore the relationships between different logarithmic bases, particularly focusing on converting to base 2.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss rewriting logarithmic expressions and consider using the Change of Base Formula. There are attempts to express logarithms in terms of \(\log_2\) and to relate \(\log_4(12)\) to \(\log_8(6)\). Some participants express confusion about how to proceed with the information derived.

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There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, with some participants providing hints and suggestions for approaching the problem. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or solution, and some participants express uncertainty about their findings.

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Participants note the relationships between the logarithmic values of different bases, but there is an acknowledgment of potential gaps in understanding how to apply these relationships effectively. The discussion reflects a learning process with various interpretations and approaches being considered.

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Homework Statement
I'm unsure of how to solve this problem, I tried changing the bases but they don't seem to have any similarities
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Expressing values in terms of another
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Jouster said:
Homework Statement:: I'm unsure of how to solve this problem, I tried changing the bases but they don't seem to have any similarities

Given \log_8(6) = p, express \log_4(12) in terms of p.

Given that 8 = 2^3 and 4 = 2^2, expressing everything in terms of \log_2 seems like a good idea.
 
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The equation ##\log_8(6) = p## can be rewritten as ##6 = 8^p##. It's not too difficult to get from there to an equation involving ##\log_4(12)## that involves p.
 
pasmith said:
Given that 8 = 2^3 and 4 = 2^2, expressing everything in terms of \log_2 seems like a good idea.
I did express everything in terms of log2, I got
log8(6) = log26/log28 = p
log4(12) = log212/log24
But I don't understand how to use this information & solve the problem :biggrin:
 
The Change Of Base Formula, as learned in Intermediate Algebra course?
 
I tried but without using Change Of Base formula.
One step I found p*log_4(8)=log_4(6)
(Excuse the lack of great typesetting.)
and notice that 12=1.5*8, and 12=2*6; and continued on that way.

Lastly I found log_4(12)=(1/p)(log_4(2)+log_4(6).
Not sure if that is what was wanted. Also not absolutely sure it is correct - not feel like checking carefully.
 
Jouster said:
But I don't understand how to use this information & solve the problem :biggrin:
Some useful hints: ##\log_{2}4=\log_{2}2^{2}##, ##\log_{2}8=\log_{2}2^{3}##, ##\log_{2}6=\log_{2}\left(2\times3\right)##, ##\log_{2}12=\log_{2}\left(2^{2}\times3\right)##.
 
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Jouster said:
I did express everything in terms of log2, I got
log8(6) = log26/log28 = p
log4(12) = log212/log24
But I don't understand how to use this information & solve the problem :biggrin:

But you didn't notice that \log_2 8 =\log_2(2^3) =3 and \log_2(4) = 2, or that \log_2(12) = \log_2(2 \times 6) = 1 + \log_2(6)?
 
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