Charge & Current in a Circuit: V, R, C, & t

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In the discussed circuit with a battery, resistor, and capacitor, the charge on the capacitor after a long time is expressed as Q = CV, where V is the voltage across the capacitor. The current through the battery approaches zero as time increases, indicating that the capacitor becomes fully charged and no longer draws current. A diagram is emphasized as crucial for understanding the circuit dynamics. To solve for the charge and current, one must consider the voltage drop across the resistors and how it affects the capacitor's behavior. Properly applying these principles will yield the correct expressions for charge and current in the circuit.
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Homework Statement


There is a circuit with a battery of voltage V and resistor R, then splits into two branches one with a capacitor C, and one with a resistor 2R.

The answers for the questions can only depend on R, C, V, and t.

When a switch only allows current to flow through the capacitor branch, the expression for charge is:

##Q = C V (1-e^{-t/(RC)})##

a) When the switch is closed, find an expression for the charge on the capacitor after a very long time (t >> RC)

b) When the switch is closed, find an expression for the current through the battery after a very long time (t >> RC)

Homework Equations



##Q = C V (1-e^{-t/(RC)})##

Current through resistor R:
##I = (V / R) e^{-t/(RC)}##

Current through resistor 2R:
##I = (-V / 2R) e^{-t/(2RC)}##

The Attempt at a Solution



a) I tried taking the limit of the charge as t goes to infinity and got my answer to be CV, but I only received 1/4 possible points for the problem so I either didn't do it right or didn't show all the work.

b) I tried taking the limit of the current and t goes to infinity and got my answer to be 0, but that is also wrong.
 
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Hi EROC. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

1) A good diagram is essential! It helps you explain what you are talking about, helps those who respond, and helps other students understand what is going on.

2) For the voltage at any point as t → ∞, consider what it would be if the capacitor were not in the crcuit. That's what it will settle at when the capacitor is present, too.
 
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To rephrase the questions with the actual diagram (because I didn't know how to upload it with the diagram because it said no attachments)
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a)When S1 and S2 are closed, find an expression for the charge on the capacitor after a very long time (t >> RC)

NascentOxygen said:
2) For the voltage at any point as t → ∞, consider what it would be if the capacitor were not in the crcuit. That's what it will settle at when the capacitor is present, too.

So there would be the voltage of V-IR on the capacitor but what would be the charge, would I just have to solve for ##Q=C(V-IR)## and then solve for the current when acting like the capacitor is not in the circuit.

b)When S1 and S2 are closed, find an expression for the current through the battery after a very long time (t >> RC)
 
Once you establish what the voltage across the capacitor terminals will be, find the charge on its plates using Q=CV
 
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