carlyn medona
Homework Statement
Each plate in the figure has area a and separation d , end of battery is e find charge supplied by battery
The discussion revolves around charge distribution in a parallel plate capacitor setup, specifically focusing on the effects of connecting the plates to a battery. Participants explore the implications of charge supplied by the battery and the relationships between the charges and potentials of the plates involved.
The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's assumptions. Some have suggested simplifying the problem by drawing diagrams, while others are exploring the relationships between charge densities and potentials. There is a recognition of the need for further clarification regarding the charge distribution and the potential of the connected plates.
There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the number of plates and their connections, as well as the need for independent equations to solve for the unknowns in the charge distribution. Participants are also considering the implications of the electric field within the plates and the conditions for charge equilibrium.
Do you mean the two connected to the battery? If so...carlyn medona said:each facing plate
... but they are connected to opposite poles.carlyn medona said:will have half the charge supplied by battery
I still do not know which plates you mean. There are four plates, and they face each other.carlyn medona said:each facing plate
Where q is what?carlyn medona said:won't that be q÷2
Yes.carlyn medona said:the plates connected together are at same poyential
Does the battery gain a net charge?carlyn medona said:Q is charge supplied by battery
No. Did you draw the diagram?carlyn medona said:Is potential difference across the series connection equal to the emf of the battery?
Your first tipoff that something is wrong is as follows: put a test charge inside the leftmost plate (4). The E field in that plate (E4) is of course zero. Now look at the contributions to E4 from all 8 sides of charge.carlyn medona said:Okay, I thought this is how charge gets distributed, please correct me if I am wrong
At last I know what you mean by "q/2 to each facing plate". You meant q/2 to each face of one plate (and -q/2 to each face of the other plate). A pity you did not try to explain that before.carlyn medona said:Okay, I thought this is how charge gets distributed, please correct me if I am wrong
This is incomplete and hard to read.carlyn medona said:I got electric field inside each plate to be zero, but not sure about charge distribution
The other thing to check is whether the two plates connected to each other are at the same potential. If so,that must be the solution.carlyn medona said:I got electric field inside each plate to be zero, but not sure about charge distribution
That's true, but consider: you have 6 unknowns (the 5 non-redundant side charge densities plus the potential of the connected two plates). So you need 6 independent equations to solve for everything. Try to use the hints I gave you last time to come up with these equations.haruspex said:The other thing to check is whether the two plates connected to each other are at the same potential. If so,that must be the solution.