Charge on Capacitor in RLC Circuit

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The problem involves determining the time at which the maximum energy stored in a capacitor in a damped RLC circuit falls to one-eighth of its initial value. The context includes the differential equation governing the circuit and assumptions regarding weak damping.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of expressions related to potential energy and the logarithmic manipulation needed to isolate time. Questions arise regarding the handling of constants in logarithmic expressions.

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Participants are engaged in clarifying the mathematical steps involved in the solution process. Some guidance has been provided regarding logarithmic properties, but confusion remains about specific terms in the equations.

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There is an assumption of weak damping in the circuit, and participants are navigating through the implications of this assumption on their calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the steps in the tutorial they are following.

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Homework Statement


At t = 0, the charge stored on the capacitor plates is maximum in an oscillating series RLC circuit. At what time will the maximum possible energy that can be stored in the capacitor fall to one-eighth of its initial value if R = 7.20 Ω and L = 21.0 H?

The differential equation for an RLC circuit is Ld2q/dt2 + Rdq/dt + q/C = 0 and the solution to this equation is q = qmaxe−Rt/2L cos ωdt.
Assume that the damping is very weak (that is, assume the resistance R << sqrt(4L/C), so that the amplitude of the charge does not change by much during one oscillation).

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I've been trying to follow a "tutorial" on my online homework program, and after about an hour I finally managed to get most of the way through it. However, I'm now stuck on one particular part.

The tutorial wants me to determine a bunch of expressions in terms of different variables without putting any numbers in. The only I'm stuck on is finding an expression for the time.

Starting from the equations for potential energy, I eventually end up determining that e-Rt/2L = 1/√8. Solving for t by taking the natural log of both sides and then isolating t is supposed to give me ln(8)L/R. At least that's what the program tells me. But, where did the 2 in the denominator of the exponent go?! That's pretty much it. Once I figure that out I think I'll be able to solve the problem completely.

Thanks.
 
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Remember that log(sqrt(x)) = log(x^(1/2)) = 1/2 log(x). So when you take the log of both sides, you get:
\frac{-Rt}{2L} = \frac{-log(8)}{2}
t = \frac{log(8) L}{R}
 
I'm sorry, you've lost me. Where did the 2 on the right side, under the -log(8) come from?
 
Hold on. ln(1/81/2) = ln(1)-ln(81/2) = 0-ln(8)/2
That look right?
 
Yes.
 
Okay. Somehow I thought the ln(1/√8) was just a ln(1/8)...

Thanks!
 

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