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The problem involves determining the temperature of a house based on the cooling rate of a cup of tea over time. The original poster describes a scenario where the tea cools from 90 C to 30 C, with specific time intervals provided. The cooling is assumed to be proportional to the temperature difference between the tea and the house.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply a cooling model using differential equations, specifically starting with dT/dt = k(T-h). Some participants question the method of solving the equations and the assumptions made regarding the temperature difference.

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Participants are actively discussing the original poster's approach and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of absolute values in the equations, and there is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the calculations. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the final answer.

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The original poster mentions constraints related to not having the answer paper and relying on the question paper for their calculations. There is also a note about potential marks lost due to the method used in the calculations.

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This question was in the exam I just sat, it was of a type I hadn't practiced, and I'd like someone to check my answer, as if it's wrong then I'm almost certain to have failed.

At 7 a.m. I made a cup of tea; after adding some milk it is about 90 C. When I left at 7:30 a.m. the tea is still drinkable at about 40 C. When I get back home at 8 a.m. the tea has cooled to 30 C.

Assume that the rate of cooling of the tea is proportional to the temperature difference of the teas and the temperature of the house. Assume also that the temperature of the house is constant.

What is the temperature of the house?

My answer: 27.5 C
 
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How about showing your work? It would make it a lot easier for us to spot a wrong turn if you would show us the route you took!
 
Hmm I only got to take the question paper home, not the answer paper. I started with putting dT/dt = k(T-h) where h was the temperature of the house. Then I separated the variables, integrated and took the exponentials which gave me (T-h) = ce^kt where c is a constant. Then I plugged in the values given in the question which gave me a set of silmultaneous equations to solve, and I ended up having to form a quadratic in e^k which gave me k = 0 and k = ln 1/5. I took k = 1/5 with the reason supplied that k < 0. This also supplied me with a value for c, namely 62 1/2. Plugging those values into my set of linear equations gave me h = -27.5 and from there I gave an argument centred around the fact that I should have been using |T-h| in place of (T-h) as to why h = 27.5
 
Gwilim said:
Plugging those values into my set of linear equations gave me h = -27.5 and from there I gave an argument centred around the fact that I should have been using |T-h| in place of (T-h) as to why h = 27.5

Hi Gwilim! :smile:

Yes, 27.5 is right! :smile:

You'll lose a few marks for the |T- h| stuff … it should have worked out fine with (T - h).

(And you could have got a linear equation in (90 - h) instead of a quadratic in k, if you'd just squared one of the e^kt equations and subtracted it from the other).

But you've definitely got most of the marks for that question!

I hope the others were as good! :smile:
 

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