Checking if a subset is a subspace

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a given subset W of a vector space V is a subspace. The subset is defined by the equation 2a1 - 7a2 + a3 = 0 in ℝ3, and the original poster outlines steps to verify the subspace criteria.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to verify the subspace properties by checking if the zero vector is included, if the set is closed under addition, and if it is closed under scalar multiplication. Some participants question the correctness of these checks and the implications of the results derived from the properties of real numbers.

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The discussion includes affirmations of the original poster's checks, with one participant confirming the correctness of the approach. There is also an exploration of how to express vectors in terms of a basis for the subspace, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

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Participants are engaging with the definitions and properties of vector spaces and subspaces, with an emphasis on ensuring that the criteria for subspace verification are correctly applied. There is a focus on understanding the implications of the mathematical properties involved.

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Let W be a subset of vector space V. Is it s subspace as well?

W = {(a1, a2, a3) [itex]\in[/itex] ℝ3 : 2a1-7a2+a3=0}So, to check if this is a subspace I need to satisfy the following:

1. That 0 is in the set. Plugging (0,0,0) into the equation 2a1-7a2+a3=0 yields 0=0 so yes, it is.

2. That it is closed under addition.

Let (b1, b2, b3) be an arbitrary vector in W.

For this to be closed under addition (b1, b2, b3)+(a1, a2, a3) [itex]\in[/itex] W.

2(a1+b1) - 7(a2+b2) + (a3+b3) = 0

can also be written as (a3+b3) = -2(a1+b1) + 7(a2+b2)

There are real-valued solutions to this, whenever bi = -ai is one, so the answer is yes, it is closed under addition.

3. Is it closed under multiplication?

Any arbitrary λ(2a1-7a2+a3)=(λ)0

So since that's still part of the set, it is closed under multiplication.

So, did I do this one correctly? God I hope so.
 
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Emspak said:
So, did I do this one correctly? God I hope so.

Why do you think this might be incorrect? The result seems to follow directly from the properties of real numbers.
 
Just wanted to heck if I was understanding this correctly.
 
Yes, you did this correctly. Notice that you can actually write down a basis for the subspace:
you are given [itex]2a_1- 7a_2+ a_3= 0[/itex] so that [itex]a_3= 7a_2- 2a_1[/itex]. That means that any such vector can be written [tex]a_1\vec{i}+ a_2\vec{j}+ a_3\vec{k}= a_1\vec{i}+ a_2\vec{j}+ (7a_2- 2a_1)\vec{k}= a_1(\vec{i}- 2\vec{k})+ a_2(\vec{j}+ 7\vec{k})[/tex].
 

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