Chem 2, Cell diagrams for oxidation/reduction reactions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around interpreting a cell diagram for an oxidation/reduction reaction and determining the anode and cathode based on the provided information. Participants explore the relationship between the cell diagram and the corresponding chemical equations, as well as the implications of standard EMF calculations.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a cell diagram (Al/Al+3 // Cu+2/Cu) and attempts to derive the corresponding chemical equations, proposing two possible reactions.
  • Another participant suggests consulting a table of reduction potentials to determine which metal is more likely to be reduced, indicating that copper likely has a higher reduction potential than aluminum.
  • A later reply confirms the correct equation as Al + Cu+2 → Al+3 + Cu, but raises a concern about obtaining a negative standard EMF, suggesting that the reaction should not occur under standard conditions.
  • Another participant counters that a negative EMF does not necessarily mean the reaction cannot take place, explaining that the potential of half-cells can change until equilibrium is reached.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the standard EMF calculation, with some asserting that a negative value indicates no reaction, while others argue that reactions can still occur under certain conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of the EMF results.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on the reduction potential table and the Nernst equation, but there are unresolved assumptions about the conditions under which the reaction occurs and the implications of the EMF values.

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Homework Statement


All I'm trying to do is translate the cell diagram below into a into a an equation so I can determine which is the anode and which is the cathode. Here is the cell diagram. I know how to balance it, I just want to make sure I'm putting reactants and products on their correct sides:

Al/ Al+3 // CU+2 / CU



The Attempt at a Solution



The unbalanced equation from the diagram above is Either Al+Cu+2--->Al+3 +Cu or

Cu+Al+3---->Cu+2+Al

In the first case Aluminum is the cathode because it reduces the copper ion to copper metal, and Copper is the anode because it oxides aluminum metal to the aluminum ion. In the second case it's the opposite. Assuming the last two statements are correct, my only problem here is figuring out which equation is represented by the cell diagram.
 
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So you need to know which metal would rather be reduced compared to the other. Look in the table of reduction potentials. Best guess without looking is that the copper would rather more be reduced than the aluminum. Check how you find those in the table and see which has the larger reduction potential.
 
Oh yeah I forgot about that. So using the table and the diagnoal rule the correct equation is:
Al+Cu+2--->Al+3 +Cu

But this leads me to another question. When I find the standard EMF of the cell using E cathode minus E anode (E Aluminum minus E Copper) I get a negative number, meaning the reaction will not occur. The rest of the problem I'm trying to do seems to assume that the reaction takes place.
 
CausativeAgent said:
I get a negative number, meaning the reaction will not occur.

No, reaction takes place as long as this difference is not zero. When the reaction takes place potential of one half-cell goes up (Nernst equation), of the second goes down - till they are both the same. Then - and only then - system is at theromodynamic equilibrium.



 

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