China destroys satellite with missile

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The discussion centers around China's recent test of an antisatellite weapon, which successfully destroyed one of its aging satellites. Participants explore the implications of this event for military space activities, potential arms races, and the responses from the United States and other nations. The conversation touches on themes of military capability, international relations, and the technological advancements of China in the context of space weaponization.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern that China's antisatellite test could lead to an arms race in space, with references to historical restraint in such activities.
  • Others argue that the United States has long possessed similar capabilities and question the implications of China's advancements.
  • There are claims that the U.S. government's policies may prioritize military freedom in space over arms control agreements.
  • Participants discuss the potential vulnerabilities of U.S. satellites and the implications for military strategy, including the reliance on GPS technology.
  • Some contributions reflect on the economic aspects of U.S.-China relations, particularly regarding technology transfer and manufacturing capabilities.
  • There are differing opinions on whether China's advancements in technology pose a significant threat to U.S. interests.
  • Some participants challenge the interpretations of statements made in the original posts, leading to debates about the accuracy of quotes and their implications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the implications of China's antisatellite test or the U.S. response. Disagreements exist regarding the interpretation of military capabilities and the potential for an arms race.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions hinge on the definitions of military capabilities and the assumptions about technological advancements. The conversation also reflects varying perspectives on the economic implications of China's production capabilities and technological growth.

  • #31
An update on the aftereffects of China's ASAT test from CelestTrak.

1,337 pieces have been cataloged as of Apr 5. 44 of those pieces will re-enter the atmosphere within 10 years. Most will orbit for centuries. Since the test, there's routinely been more than 2500 close approaches (within 5 km) of space debris per week.

This stands to become one of the dumbest stunts staged in space history (Westford Needles back in the 60's was pretty dumb, as well - I can't think of any others that are comparable).

CelestTrak has some interesting data and some interesting scenarios. You have to download AGI's viewer software to watch the scenarios, but the viewer software is free.
 
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  • #32
hopefully if there is ever a war in space where opposing sides try to destroy all the other side's satellite, we don't end up with such a thick debris field around Earth that it becomes too difficult to put satellites in orbit again. i bet a trash collection project for orbital debris would be extremely expensive.
 
  • #33
Then again the US has a huge military advantage over China in terms of utilising space and the modern military parlance lays great emphasis on 3 dimendional warfare so perhaps the Chinese intention was to show the US it can severely limit 1 dimension by effectively mining space using the US's own satellites as mine material.

So although a severe nuisance in terms of making the peaceful exploration of space more difficult militarily it may not be so stupid.
 

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