Circuit with 3 batteries and 4 resistors

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a circuit problem involving three batteries and four resistors, specifically focusing on calculating the current "I" in terms of the voltages and resistances present in the circuit. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the labeling of currents and the configuration of the batteries.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Kirchoff's Voltage Law to derive equations for the circuit but questions the efficiency of the battery configuration. Some participants suggest checking the current sum at a node, while others note that certain equations appear to be redundant.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding node equations, and there is acknowledgment of the original poster's realization about the node equation after further exploration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the battery arrangement and questioning the assumptions behind the circuit's efficiency. There is also mention of the nature of exam questions and their relation to real-world scenarios.

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Homework Statement


The question pertains to the first problem from this link
https://courses.physics.illinois.edu/phys212/sp2014/practice/practice.pl?exam2/fa10
They ask for the value of "I" in terms of V1, V2, R1, and R2.

Homework Equations


V = IR
∑Vi = 0 [/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



Choosing Kirchoff's Voltage Law will produce three equations...[/B]

1). V1 - i1R1 - V2 - i2R1 - i1R2 = 0

2). V2 - V2 - i3R1 + i2R1 = 0

3). V1 - i1R1 - V2 - i3R1 - i1R2 = 0

The question makes it seem as if I could solve for that current with just one equation. I'm confused on how to label the currents given the positioning of the battery terminals in the circuit as well. They seem to be pumping current directly into each others positive terminals, why is this an efficient set up for the circuit in the first place? Should I combine the two V2 batteries because voltages in parallel are equal?
 
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okay so just messing with these equations, I3 = I2 and (1) and (3) become the same exact thing, working with just one equation
V1 - i1R1 - V2 - i2R1 - i1R2 = 0
 
Check the current sum at one of the nodes. The sum of incoming currents is equal to the sum of outgoing currents.
 
I'm sorry, I completely forgot my node equation. I found it quite easily after that third equation. Thank you
 
They seem to be pumping current directly into each others positive terminals, why is this an efficient set up for the circuit in the first place?

Exam questions don't have to be representative of real world problems but you do come across circuits where one voltage source delivers current to another like this. I bet you have at least one battery charger at home. If you have one that charges several loose cells it's not to dissimilar.
 

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