Circuits question, series vs parallel

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In the discussion about the power differences between a series circuit (A) and a parallel circuit (B), it is noted that circuit A has lower power due to voltage being shared among components, leading to reduced power output for the motor. The cumulative resistance in series decreases total power, while in parallel, voltage remains constant and resistance decreases, resulting in higher power for circuit B. Participants suggest that a clearer mathematical approach is needed to compare the power in both circuits, emphasizing the importance of circuit diagrams and standard rules over relying solely on formulas. The recommendation is to derive the power dissipated by the motor in each configuration for a more accurate comparison. Overall, a more structured explanation with proper calculations is necessary to strengthen the argument.
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Homework Statement


There are 2 circuits.
A:
-A series circuit
Components:
-Motor
-Filament lamp
-Resistor

B:
-A parallel circuit
Components:
-Motor
-Filament lamp
-Resistor
-Each component is in a separate parallel circuit

Question)Explain why the power of the motor is lower in the circuit shown in A than the circuit shown in B.

Homework Equations


V=IR
P=VI
P=I^2R
[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


My solution of to why circuit A has a lower power is because of the fact that we have less pd as voltage is shared out but current stays constant P=VI ,we would also know that resistance is cumualtive and so would decrease total power as P=I^2R . However in circuit B it is parallel and so current is shared out and voltage stays constant P=VI, but in parallel resistance decreases as more resistance is added ,so by P=I^2R circuit B has more power . Is this a strong enough explanation for the question?[/B]
 
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Falcon99 said:

Homework Statement


There are 2 circuits.
A:
-A series circuit
Components:
-Motor
-Filament lamp
-Resistor

B:
-A parallel circuit
Components:
-Motor
-Filament lamp
-Resistor
-Each component is in a separate parallel circuit

Question)Explain why the power of the motor is lower in the circuit shown in A than the circuit shown in B.

Homework Equations


V=IR
P=VI
P=I^2R
[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


My solution of to why circuit A has a lower power is because of the fact that we have less pd as voltage is shared out but current stays constant P=VI ,we would also know that resistance is cumualtive and so would decrease total power as P=I^2R . However in circuit B it is parallel and so current is shared out and voltage stays constant P=VI, but in parallel resistance decreases as more resistance is added ,so by P=I^2R circuit B has more power . Is this a strong enough explanation for the question?[/B]
 
Better to use P = V^2/Req.
 
Falcon99 said:
Is this a strong enough explanation for the question?
I would say no. The explanation is not very consistent and you have random formulas interjected into sentences that do not justify the claims you are making. For example what is ##R## in the equations? Is it the resistance of the light bulb, the motor, or the whole circuit?

I would suggest that you actually find a mathematical expression for the power dissipated by the motor in each circuit and show that one is less than the other.
 
Let'sthink said:
Better to use P = V^2/Req.
Sorry, the correct equation is P = V^2/(2Req)
 
I would suggest that you should not look for a formula. Draw the circuit diagram for each case, use standard rules of circuits to find the current in the motor, then use the formula for the power in the motor, and then compare the two. Using a formula to start with is never a good idea.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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