Circuits question, series vs parallel

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The discussion centers around two electrical circuits: one series and one parallel. The original poster seeks to understand why the power of a motor differs between these two configurations, specifically noting that the power is lower in the series circuit compared to the parallel circuit.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between voltage, current, and resistance in series and parallel circuits. The original poster attempts to explain the differences in power using formulas related to voltage and resistance. Some participants question the clarity and consistency of the original explanation, suggesting that the definitions of resistance in the equations need clarification.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing suggestions for improvement in the explanation. Some have recommended using different equations for power and drawing circuit diagrams to better illustrate the concepts. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of clearly defining terms and variables in the equations used, as well as the need for a structured approach to analyzing the circuits. There is an emphasis on understanding the fundamental principles of circuit behavior rather than jumping to formulas.

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Homework Statement


There are 2 circuits.
A:
-A series circuit
Components:
-Motor
-Filament lamp
-Resistor

B:
-A parallel circuit
Components:
-Motor
-Filament lamp
-Resistor
-Each component is in a separate parallel circuit

Question)Explain why the power of the motor is lower in the circuit shown in A than the circuit shown in B.

Homework Equations


V=IR
P=VI
P=I^2R
[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


My solution of to why circuit A has a lower power is because of the fact that we have less pd as voltage is shared out but current stays constant P=VI ,we would also know that resistance is cumualtive and so would decrease total power as P=I^2R . However in circuit B it is parallel and so current is shared out and voltage stays constant P=VI, but in parallel resistance decreases as more resistance is added ,so by P=I^2R circuit B has more power . Is this a strong enough explanation for the question?[/B]
 
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Falcon99 said:

Homework Statement


There are 2 circuits.
A:
-A series circuit
Components:
-Motor
-Filament lamp
-Resistor

B:
-A parallel circuit
Components:
-Motor
-Filament lamp
-Resistor
-Each component is in a separate parallel circuit

Question)Explain why the power of the motor is lower in the circuit shown in A than the circuit shown in B.

Homework Equations


V=IR
P=VI
P=I^2R
[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


My solution of to why circuit A has a lower power is because of the fact that we have less pd as voltage is shared out but current stays constant P=VI ,we would also know that resistance is cumualtive and so would decrease total power as P=I^2R . However in circuit B it is parallel and so current is shared out and voltage stays constant P=VI, but in parallel resistance decreases as more resistance is added ,so by P=I^2R circuit B has more power . Is this a strong enough explanation for the question?[/B]
 
Better to use P = V^2/Req.
 
Falcon99 said:
Is this a strong enough explanation for the question?
I would say no. The explanation is not very consistent and you have random formulas interjected into sentences that do not justify the claims you are making. For example what is ##R## in the equations? Is it the resistance of the light bulb, the motor, or the whole circuit?

I would suggest that you actually find a mathematical expression for the power dissipated by the motor in each circuit and show that one is less than the other.
 
Let'sthink said:
Better to use P = V^2/Req.
Sorry, the correct equation is P = V^2/(2Req)
 
I would suggest that you should not look for a formula. Draw the circuit diagram for each case, use standard rules of circuits to find the current in the motor, then use the formula for the power in the motor, and then compare the two. Using a formula to start with is never a good idea.
 

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