CIRCUITS: Three resistors, two Indep. Voltage sources, one Indep. Current source

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The discussion revolves around analyzing a circuit with three resistors and multiple independent voltage and current sources using the superposition principle. Participants are exploring how to calculate the current through the circuit components.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the superposition principle and the equivalent resistance in the circuit. There are questions about the correct interpretation of series and parallel resistor combinations and their impact on current calculations.

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Some participants have provided calculations for specific currents and have clarified the relationships between resistors in series and parallel. There is ongoing exploration regarding the calculation of the third current in the circuit, with various interpretations being discussed.

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There are mentions of potential misunderstandings regarding the equivalent resistance of the circuit components and the role of ground in the analysis. Participants are also navigating the implications of keeping resistors separate versus combining them into equivalent resistances.

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Find I in the circuit using the superposition principle:

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My work so far:

I\,=\,I_1\,+\,I_2\,+\,I_3

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This reduces down to:
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16\,V\,=\,I_1\,(8\Omega)
I_1\,=\,\frac{16\,V}{8\Omega}\,=\,2\,A

PracticeProb4-5Part4.jpg


This reduces down to:
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I_2\,=\,-\frac{12\,V}{8\Omega}\,=\,-\frac{3}{2}

But how do I solve this circuit?:

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First of all. The equivalent load for the two voltage sources is 16\Omega and not 8\Omega. So, I1 = 1A and I2 = -3/4A.
For the third circuit, forget the ground. The 6\Omega and 8\Omega resistors are in series and their series equivalent is in parallel with the 2\Omega resistor.
 
The cuurent that I am looking for (I1) is in between the two resistors that are 8-ohms. I know they are in series and combined they are 16-ohm but don't I have to leave them like that to get the right answer since the current is between them?
 
VinnyCee said:
The cuurent that I am looking for (I1) is in between the two resistors that are 8-ohms. I know they are in series and combined they are 16-ohm but don't I have to leave them like that to get the right answer since the current is between them?
That current goes through both resistors. It is OK to keep them separate, but then you have two voltage drops of 8I1 and 8I1. The net effect is the same as one 16 ohm resistor. You do not have to keep them separate; you can always replace a series combination of resistors by one equivalent resistor.
 
OIC - The same current goes through both resistors BECAUSE they are in series!

So that means that:

I_1\,=\,1\,A

I_2\,=\,-\frac{3}{4}\,A

But how do I find I_3 in the last circuit?

PracticeProb4-5Part6.jpg
 
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SGT said:
For the third circuit, forget the ground. The 6\Omega and 8\Omega resistors are in series and their series equivalent is in parallel with the 2\Omega resistor.

So the circuit would look like this?:

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4\,A\,=\,I_3\,+\,I_3'

14\,\left(4\,A\,=\,\frac{v_1}{2\Omega}\,+\,\frac{v_1}{14\Omega}\right)

v_1\,=\,7\,V

I_3\,=\,\frac{v_1}{14\Omega}\,=\,\frac{(7\,V)}{14\Omega}\,=\,\frac{1}{2}\,A

I\,=\,I_1\,+\,I_2\,+\,I_3

I\,=\,\left(1\,A\right)\,+\,\left(-\,\frac{3}{4}\,A\right)\,+\,\left(\frac{1}{2}\,A\right)\,=\,\frac{3}{4}\,A

That is right, thanks everyone!
 
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