Circular Motion angle b/w acc and velocity etc.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around understanding the angles between acceleration vectors in circular motion, specifically the angle between tangential acceleration and total acceleration, as well as the angle between velocity and acceleration vectors. The scope includes conceptual clarification and mathematical reasoning related to uniform and non-uniform circular motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about finding the angle between tangential acceleration and total acceleration vector, as well as between velocity and acceleration vectors in circular motion.
  • Another participant suggests that the question could be interpreted in multiple ways and emphasizes the need for precision in the inquiry.
  • A participant explains that in uniform circular motion, the centripetal force acts towards the center and is orthogonal to the velocity vector, while the centrifugal force is a fictitious force that opposes it.
  • There is a query about how the angle varies when the object is undergoing uniform tangential acceleration.
  • One participant proposes calculating the resultant of constant tangential acceleration and centripetal acceleration, suggesting that the angle can be determined through vector addition.
  • A later reply suggests changing the frame of reference to simplify calculations, proposing a method to express centripetal acceleration in terms of time and tangential acceleration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the original question or the methods to calculate the angles, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the motion (e.g., uniform vs. non-uniform acceleration) and the dependence on specific definitions of forces involved. Some mathematical steps and the implications of changing frames of reference remain unresolved.

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How do you find the angle b/w tangential acceleration and total acceleration vector, Or angle between velocity vector and Acceleration vector. I'm really confused about this and no one's helping.
 
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Hi sagar98,

I am a bit confused about what you are asking as your question, as put at the moment can lead to multiple interpretations. For a quick answer please try to be more precise.

So you have a circular motion of an object. I assume constant velocity. For this to happen the centripetal force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal) needs to act from the body towards the center of the rotation curve to keep the rotation going in a circle. Example a rock spinning around a pole held by a string from the pole to the rock. Here the force is the tension in the string and is orthogonal to the velocity vector, pointing towards the pole.

The centrifugal force is a fictitious force (as it is basically inertia) and completely opposes the centrifugal. It is felt by the rock. The two forces cancel each other and the rock has no acceleration and keeps a constant velocity in it's circular motion.

The angles are always 90 deg' from the velocity vector. Centripetal towards the pole, centrifugal opposite.

Have fun!
 
Thanks and What if it's undergoing uniform tangential acceleration? Then how does the angle vary?
 
I think what you are after is the resultant between the Constant Tangential Acceleration (at) and the centripetal acceleration v2/r. At time t (from rest, perhaps?), you can calculate the value of v so you will then have both acceleration vectors and can show their vector sum in Mag and Direction relative to radius (or whatever).
 
Sagar98 said:
Thanks and What if it's undergoing uniform tangential acceleration? Then how does the angle vary?

In order to simplify the whole setup you could change your fixed frame of reference to the object to be accelerated with the Y axis pointing to the center of rotation. While the rest of the world spins accelerated around the center of rotation. This will eliminate the varying angle of position from your calculation.

Thus you will get your acceleration on the X axis and the centripetal on the Y. You just need to express the centripetal variance according to Time and the tangential acceleration. And the rest is simple trigonometry.
 

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