Circular Motion: Coefficient of Static Friction, u=0.2, Angular Speed, w

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving circular motion, specifically analyzing the forces acting on a slider positioned on an inclined rod that rotates about a vertical axis. The problem includes elements of static friction, angular speed, and the dynamics of the slider's motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the forces acting on the slider, questioning the normal force and its relationship to gravitational components. There is discussion about the acceleration of the slider and its implications for the forces involved.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants raising questions about the definitions and components of forces in the context of circular motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the normal force and the forces acting on the slider, but no consensus has been reached on certain assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the application of force equations in different scenarios, particularly comparing the current problem to banked curves and the role of static friction in maintaining the slider's position.

  • #31
Latios1314 said:
But back to the case of the inclined rod, can i say that
nsin60=mg?

Tried it. But the answer wasn't right. Could you tell me why?
Of course it's not right, as I've been saying since my first post. Why do you think it's right? (For my reasons, reread this thread.)
 
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  • #32
Reread it.
But i still don't really get it.

There is a resultant centripetal force pointing towards the centre and thus there is a centripetal acceleration pointing towards the centre. The forces along BC is caused by friction and a component of the slider's weight mgcos60.

But how is it different from a car on a banked road?

In the case of a car on a banked road.

ncosθ=mg. It is a component of the normal force ncosθ=mg

but why doesn't a component of the normal force=mg here?
 
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  • #33
Latios1314 said:
But how is it different from a car on a banked road?
It's very similar.
but why doesn't a component of the normal force=mg here?
It does. You are confusing ncosθ = mg with n = mgcosθ. Big difference!
 
  • #34
i mean for the case of a car on a banked road.

ncosθ = mg

But why doesn't nsinθ = mg for the case of the slider?
 
  • #35
Latios1314 said:
i mean for the case of a car on a banked road.

ncosθ = mg

But why doesn't nsinθ = mg for the case of the slider?
Because there is friction. To get an equation for the vertical forces you must include all vertical force components. Friction will have a vertical component.

For the car on a banked road, ncosθ = mg only if there is no friction.
 

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