Circular Motion Prac: Investigating Centripetal Force Relationships

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The discussion revolves around an experiment investigating the relationships between centripetal force, mass, radius, and the period of rotation in circular motion. The original poster describes their experimental setup and observations but struggles to clarify the relationships between the variables involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationships between the period of rotation, radius, and mass, with some questioning the original poster's understanding of the forces involved. There are attempts to derive equations and clarify the dependencies between the variables based on experimental results.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables, with some participants providing insights into the forces at play and suggesting ways to verify the original poster's findings. Multiple interpretations of the relationships are being discussed, but no consensus has been reached.

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The original poster mentions varying the masses and radius independently, which may introduce complexities in the relationships being analyzed. There is also a reference to the need for clarity on the equations relevant to their experiment.

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I recently completed an experiment about centripetal motion in which we attached a string to a weighed mass and passed the string through a glass tube, tying the free end to another weighed mass. We then moved the tube so the upper mass traced out circular motion and recorded the period of rotation. We then varied independently each of the masses and the radius of rotation.

On plotting the graphs, however, I wasn't able to clearly work out the relationship between the variables.

My best calculations are that

T squared is proporional to R
T squared is inversely proportional to the mass used to provide the centripetal force
T is proportional to the moving mass

I'm not sure of the equations I should be using to determine these relationships. Can anyone help?
 
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I don't really understand the experiment youre carrying out. The forces that are acting seem to be the centrifugal force: mw^2r, gravity:mg, and the tension in the string. Draw a fbd and try to work out a general expression for the forces on your system. The expression you get, you can try verifying it with your experimental results.
 
Sorry, let me rephrase the question.

Basically what I am trying to work out is how the radius is related to the period of an object undergoing circular motion with a constant centripetal force.

My experimental results don't seem to show any discernable relationship.
 
The force is constant. So then v=rw. [tex]T=\frac{2\pi r}{rw}[/tex]. As you see, the radius cancels out, so the time period is independent of radius. This is only valid since the angular speed is constant.
 
The centripetal force that the moving mass, [tex]m_v[/tex], is experiencing is given by

[tex]F_c = m_c g[/tex]

and it is also represented by

[tex]F_c = \frac{m_v v^2}{R}[/tex]

while the speeed of the moving mass is

[tex]v = \frac{2 \pi R}{T}[/tex]

this gives the relation

[tex]T^2 = \frac{4 \pi ^2 m_v R}{g m_c}[/tex]

The square of the period is therefore directly proportional to [tex]m_v[/tex] and [tex]R[/tex], and it is inversely proportional to [tex]m_c[/tex]. So your approach is correct. As a further test you could calculate and plot the square of the period as a function of the values

[tex]\frac{m_v R}{m_c}[/tex]

this graph should then be a directly proportional graph with a gradient of

[tex]\frac{4 \pi ^2}{g}[/tex]

Just be sure to use values in your calculations that represent a single set of measurements.
 
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