Clarifying Coherent and Incoherent Sum of Plane Waves

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of coherent and incoherent sums of plane waves in the context of Kohler illumination and the use of a He-Ne laser for imaging systems. Participants explore the implications of spatial coherence and the resulting illumination characteristics on an object.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the total illumination at the object from a coherent laser, like a He-Ne laser, is a single plane wave or an incoherent sum of plane waves.
  • Another participant notes that Kohler illumination involves more complexity than initially described, highlighting the role of spatial coherence and the potential for speckle due to interference.
  • A later reply suggests that spatial filtering of the laser can remove speckle, indicating a relationship between beam manipulation and illumination characteristics.
  • Further, a participant explains that the nature of the beam (e.g., 'raw' Gaussian versus expanded and clipped) affects the decomposition of the field and the resulting illumination at the aperture stop.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the nature of illumination from a He-Ne laser, with some agreeing on the effects of spatial coherence while others emphasize the impact of beam manipulation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific characterization of the illumination at the object.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the coherence properties of the laser and the effects of different beam manipulations on the illumination model. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or conceptual intricacies involved.

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Hi everyone,

I understand that in Kohler illumination, each point at the source is converted into a plane wave illuminating the object. From what I understand, the total illumination at the object is the incoherent sum of the plane waves. Suppose my source is an ideal coherent laser i.e He-Ne laser. Is the total illumination at the object just a single plane wave?

Could anyone clarify this for me? I am very confused about the coherent and incoherent sum of plane waves at the object. Thank you
 
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Kohler illumination is a little more than what you stated, but close enough. Using a source with some spatial coherence (the laser has high temporal coherence but lower spatial coherence) will result in 'speckle' at the sample plane from interference. Spatially filtering the laser will, AFAIK, remove speckle.
 
Andy Resnick said:
Kohler illumination is a little more than what you stated, but close enough. Using a source with some spatial coherence (the laser has high temporal coherence but lower spatial coherence) will result in 'speckle' at the sample plane from interference. Spatially filtering the laser will, AFAIK, remove speckle.

Hi Andy,

Thank you for your response. I understand how the Kohler illumination reduces speckle. So I am writing this program to model an imaging system. So my problem is with the modelling of the illumination on the object. With a He-Ne laser, is the illuminating beam a coherent sum of plane waves or just a single plane wave?
 
It depends on what you've done to the beam. If it's a 'raw' Gaussian , then you decompose the field accordingly. If the beam is expanded and clipped by the aperture stop, then your decomposition will be altered. If you've spatially filtered and expanded the beam, then you have close to a single plane wave at the aperture stop.
 

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