Classical Dynamics: Given v(x), find F(x), x(t), and F(t).

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The discussion focuses on solving a classical dynamics problem where the speed of a particle of mass m is defined by the equation v(x) = (alpha)*x^(-n). The participants derive the force F(x) as F(x) = -mn(alpha)x^(-n-1) and clarify the need to apply the chain rule for acceleration. The correct approach to find x(t) involves solving a separable ordinary differential equation (ODE) using the integral of 1/v(x). The discussion highlights the importance of proper terminology and method in physics problem-solving.

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Homework Statement


The speed of a particle of mass m varies with the distance x as v(x) = (alpha)*x-n.
Assume v(x=0) = 0 at t = 0.
(a) Find the force F(x) responsible.
(b) Determine x(t) and
(c) F(t)

Homework Equations


Likely:
F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I obtain
a(x) = -n(alpha)x-(n+1)
So
F(x) = ma(x) = -mn(alpha)x-(n+1)

The back of book claims:
F(x) = -mna*x-(2n+1)

They use 'a' for the answer, I think they mean alpha, unless a IS alpha...
 
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Hi BlueFalcon, welcome to PF!:smile:

BlueFalcon said:
I obtain
a(x) = -n(alpha)x-(n+1)

Careful, acceleration is the change in velocity with respect to time, not position; you need to use the chain rule:

\frac{d}{dt}v(x)=\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=v\frac{dv}{dx}

P.S. In the future, problems like this should probably be posted in the introductory physics forum instead.:wink:
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Hi BlueFalcon, welcome to PF!:smile:



Careful, acceleration is the change in velocity with respect to time, not position; you need to use the chain rule:

\frac{d}{dt}v(x)=\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=v\frac{dv}{dx}

P.S. In the future, problems like this should probably be posted in the introductory physics forum instead.:wink:

BAH!

I swear I tried that method and got a bunch of warrgarrbllll.

Thanks.

I can't believe I messed it up that bad.
 
Although, I can't seem to find x(t). Running into the same wargarbl.
 
Hint: You have a separable ODE for x(t):

\frac{dx}{dt}=v(x)\implies \int \frac{dx}{v(x)}=\int dt

(Don't forget the constant(s) of integration!:wink:)
 

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