Classical Dynamics: Given v(x), find F(x), x(t), and F(t).

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a particle of mass m with a speed that varies with distance as v(x) = (alpha)*x-n. The original poster seeks to find the force F(x), the position x(t), and the force as a function of time F(t). The context is classical dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the force F(x) from the given speed function and expresses confusion regarding the acceleration and its relationship with velocity. Some participants suggest using the chain rule to clarify the relationship between acceleration and velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the application of the chain rule and the definitions of acceleration and velocity. A hint has been provided regarding the separable ordinary differential equation for x(t), but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a note about the original poster's confusion regarding the notation used in the problem, specifically whether 'a' refers to alpha. Additionally, there is a suggestion that this type of problem may be more suitable for a different forum.

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Homework Statement


The speed of a particle of mass m varies with the distance x as v(x) = (alpha)*x-n.
Assume v(x=0) = 0 at t = 0.
(a) Find the force F(x) responsible.
(b) Determine x(t) and
(c) F(t)

Homework Equations


Likely:
F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I obtain
a(x) = -n(alpha)x-(n+1)
So
F(x) = ma(x) = -mn(alpha)x-(n+1)

The back of book claims:
F(x) = -mna*x-(2n+1)

They use 'a' for the answer, I think they mean alpha, unless a IS alpha...
 
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Hi BlueFalcon, welcome to PF!:smile:

BlueFalcon said:
I obtain
a(x) = -n(alpha)x-(n+1)

Careful, acceleration is the change in velocity with respect to time, not position; you need to use the chain rule:

\frac{d}{dt}v(x)=\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=v\frac{dv}{dx}

P.S. In the future, problems like this should probably be posted in the introductory physics forum instead.:wink:
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Hi BlueFalcon, welcome to PF!:smile:



Careful, acceleration is the change in velocity with respect to time, not position; you need to use the chain rule:

\frac{d}{dt}v(x)=\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=v\frac{dv}{dx}

P.S. In the future, problems like this should probably be posted in the introductory physics forum instead.:wink:

BAH!

I swear I tried that method and got a bunch of warrgarrbllll.

Thanks.

I can't believe I messed it up that bad.
 
Although, I can't seem to find x(t). Running into the same wargarbl.
 
Hint: You have a separable ODE for x(t):

\frac{dx}{dt}=v(x)\implies \int \frac{dx}{v(x)}=\int dt

(Don't forget the constant(s) of integration!:wink:)
 

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