Classical ground state is Ne\'{e}l state:

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The discussion revolves around the classical ground state being the Néel state in a spin system, focusing on the transformation of spins in the B sublattice through a 180-degree rotation about the x-axis. Participants explore the implications of this transformation and its mathematical representation, including the application to higher spins.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the classical ground state is the Néel state, where spins are arranged oppositely in two sublattices.
  • Another participant provides a mathematical representation of a 180-degree rotation around the x-axis, questioning how the transformation affects the spin operators.
  • There is a discussion about the validity of the transformation for higher spins, with some participants suggesting that it holds for spin-1/2 only.
  • Participants debate the correct expression for the rotation operator and its application to the spin operators, with some confusion about the angle used in the exponent.
  • One participant clarifies that the spin-1/2 operator can be expressed in terms of the Pauli matrices, leading to further discussion on the implications for the transformation of spin operators.
  • Another participant suggests that the transformation relations should hold for any vector, not just spin operators.
  • There is a correction regarding the existence of higher spin representations, with a participant noting that higher spins are represented by matrices of larger dimensions.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the necessity of using a product of rotation operators for the entire B sublattice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the application of the transformation to higher spins and the mathematical details of the rotation operator. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact implications and correctness of the transformations for different spin representations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their understanding of the mathematical steps involved in the transformation, and there is uncertainty about the application of the rotation operator to the entire B sublattice.

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Tha classical ground state is Ne\'{e}l state: every spin up is surrounded by nearest neighbours which are down, and vice versa. To give them a name, denote the spins down the [tex]A[/tex] sublattice, and the spins up the [tex]B[/tex] sublattice. Perform a canonical transformation on the [tex]B[/tex] (but not on the [tex]A[/tex] spins: rotate them by [tex]180^{\circ}[/tex] about the [tex]\hat{S}^x[/tex] axis,

[tex]\hat{S}_j^{\pm}\rightarrow +\hat{S}_j^{\mp}[/tex]


[tex]\hat{S}_j^z \rightarrow -\hat{S}_j^z[/tex] [tex](j in B)[/tex]

Can you explain me this transformation with more details? I can't see why relations
[tex]\hat{S}_j^{\pm}\rightarrow +\hat{S}_j^{\mp}[/tex]


[tex]\hat{S}_j^z \rightarrow -\hat{S}_j^z[/tex] [tex](j in B)[/tex]

are satisfied?
 
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A rotation by 180 deg around x is [tex]\exp(i\sigma_x \pi/2)=\cos(\pi/2) +i\sigma_x \sin(\pi/2)=\sigma_x[/tex].
Hence [tex]\mathbf{\sigma}->\exp(i\sigma_x \pi/2)\mathbf{\sigma}\exp(-i \sigma_x \pi/2)=i\sigma_x \mathbf{\sigma} (-i \sigma_x)=(\sigma_x, -\sigma_y, -\sigma_z)^T[/tex], as sigma_x commutes with sigma_x and anti-commutes with sigma_y and sigma_z.
That's for spin 1/2 only. You will have to check yourself that it holds also for higher spins.
 


[tex] \exp(i\sigma_x \pi/2)=\cos(\pi/2) +i\sigma_x \sin(\pi/2)=i \sigma_x [/tex]

How you get this?

[tex] \exp(i\sigma_x \pi/2)=\cos(\sigma_x \pi/2) +isin(\sigma_x \pi/2)[/tex]


from this?
 


use [tex]\sigma_x^2=1[/tex] and the Taylor representation of the sin.
 


Thanks!

[tex]e^{\frac{i\sigma_x\pi}{2}}=cos\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2}+isin\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2}=isin\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2}=<br /> i\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}(-1)^n\frac{{(\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2})}^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}=i\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}(-1)^n\frac{{(\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2})}^{2n}\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2}}{(2n+1)!}<br /> =i\sigma_x\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{{(\frac{\pi}{2})}^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}=i\sigma_x[/tex]

I have one more question?

I'm rotate them by [tex]180^{\circ}[/tex]. Why I use [tex]e^{\frac{i\sigma_x\pi}{2}}[/tex]?
Why not [tex]e^{{i\sigma_x\pi}}[/tex]
 


You want to say that

[tex]e^{\frac{i\sigma_x\pi}{2}}\hat{S}_j^z=-\hat{S}_j^z[/tex]?

and

[tex]e^{\frac{i\sigma_x\pi}{2}}\hat{S}_j^{\pm}=\hat{S}_j^{\mp}[/tex]?
 


To question #5:Because the spin 1/2 operator s_iis sigma_i /2 (setting hbar to 1).
To question #6:I want to say that

LaTeX Code: e^{\\frac{i\\sigma_x\\pi}{2}}\\hat{S}_j^z e^{-\\frac{i\\sigma_x\\pi}{2}}=-\\hat{S}_j^z

and

LaTeX Code: e^{\\frac{i\\sigma_x\\pi}{2}}\\hat{S}_j^{\\pm} e^{-\\frac{i\\sigma_x\\pi}{2}}=\\hat{S}_ j^{\\mp}
 


I can't read your post!
 


To question #5:Because the spin 1/2 operator s_iis sigma_i /2 (setting hbar to 1).
To question #6:I want to say that

[tex]e^{\frac{i\sigma_x\pi}{2}}\hat{S}_j^z e^{-\frac{i\sigma_x\pi}{2}}=-\hat{S}_j^z[/tex]

and

[tex]e^{\frac{i\sigma_x\pi}{2}}\hat{S}_j^{\pm} e^{-\frac{i\sigma_x\pi}{2}}=\hat{S}_ j^{\mp}[/tex]
 
  • #10


DrDu said:
To question #5:Because the spin 1/2 operator s_iis sigma_i /2 (setting hbar to 1).
[tex]\vec{s}=\frac{1}{2}\vec{\sigma}[/tex]

for [tex]\hbar=1[/tex].

So

[tex] e^{i s_x\pi}\hat{S}_j^z e^{-i s_x\pi}=-\hat{S}_j^z [/tex]

[tex] e^{i s_x\pi}\hat{S}_j^{\pm} e^{-i s_x\pi}=\hat{S}_ j^{\mp} [/tex]

for any [tex]s_x[/tex]. Correct?
 
  • #11


Yes, in fact, the relations of #1 hold for any vector, not only for spin for a 180 deg rotation.
 
  • #12


First there is no spin 2/3. Second, the operator for higher spins is represented by matrices of dimension (2s+1)x(2s+1). E.g. for spin 1 you get the usual 3x3 rotation matrices.
 
  • #13


Hm. I know it past a little time but I'm now confused a bit.

[tex] e^{\frac{i\sigma_x\pi}{2}}=cos\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2 }+isin\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2}=isin\frac{\sigma_x\pi} {2}=<br /> i\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}(-1)^n\frac{{(\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2})}^{2n+1}}{(2n+1) !}=i\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}(-1)^n\frac{{(\frac{\sigma_x\pi}{2})}^{2n}\frac{\sig ma_x\pi}{2}}{(2n+1)!}<br /> =i\sigma_x\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{{(\frac{\pi}{2} )}^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}=i\sigma_x[/tex]

I agree that this is rotation for angle [tex]\pi[/tex]. But I want to rotate whole B sublattice. I think that in this case I must use somethink like

[tex] e^{\frac{i\sum_k\sigma_k^x\pi}{2}}=\prod_ke^{\frac{i\sigma_k^x\pi}{2}}[/tex]

Am I right?
 
  • #14


Yes, you have to take this product.
 

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